New Album Discussion 1 - Songs of..... - Unreasonable guitar album

[DomCobb]

Originally Posted by Hewson

They were cool in the 80's and 90's (certainly the early 90's). And not thought of too badly in the early 2000's by most.

They certainly faced a fair share of "too serious/uncool/pretentious/shut up Bono" critiques which intensified during Rattle and Hum but was I believe mainly backlash to the success of Joshua Tree.

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

we've had this conversation before.

comparing U2 to nickleback is ridiculous.

those who do hate them are quite vocal - but there's an age range - let's say late 30s and up - where the band is beloved and always have been - by the general public. you don't sell the number of tickets they've sold or the albums they sold (when that was a thing) if there's a 50/50 love 'em or hate 'em thing going on.

again - those who do hate them are very vocal about it. but it's not a huge number. i think people often mistake eye rolling at bono for hatred of U2.

that said - there's a SHARP cut off once we start getting past Vertigo. they tried to hang around with the youngs for too long and faced a sharp backlash - the apple debacle being the culmination. but the fans who became fans in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s are plentiful.

the olds still love U2. how many other bands could come close to selling out 25 shows in a single city for an old album?

their being the old guy in the club thing has hurt their legacy with younger generations. but i do think, in time, that'll swing back.

I don't disagree with any of this. They've always been very popular, and still are (I mean, not much competition these days, but they are still one of if not THE biggest/most popular band in the world).

That said, we're talking about whether or not they're cool, and how much they're made fun of. They can still be 10x more popular than Nickelback and still be right behind them in terms of shit slinging.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

fair enough.

i do believe it was "cool" to like U2 in the 80s and early 90s, and then again from 2000 all the way up through 360.

from that point on they've done nothing but shoot themselves in the foot.

[mikal]

I think it also depends on your circle too. I've played in a few hard rock bands and generally have friends who like harder rock (including myself) and the very mention of U2 was laughed at.

[Gonna Run 2 U]

There is a mob mentality when it comes to U2 hate in social settings. Once someone mentions how much U2 (particularly Bono) suck, people tend to join in. It’s always an uphill battle trying to defend them. Gets exhausting.

[super fly guy]

For the record,I couldn't give a flying fuck what other people think of them. They are my favourite band and that's that,even got the tattoo to prove it.

[super fly guy]

And yes,I am.pished!

[Irvine511]

Joshua Tree 2017 was very effective damage control post-iTunes.

Bono will never be cool, but he never was. He was never sex, drugs, and RnR. But that’s fine. Bono has objectively improved the world, and I’m sure he wouldn’t trade that for some 17-year old wearing a Stones shirt who probably doesn’t know any of their songs. I have friends with young teenagers and it’s seen as kind of cool/ironic to wear Def Leppard shirts. Not sure I want that for U2?

I don’t really talk about being a big fan, but it’s something people know about me. I also don’t try to actively try and recruit fans, or try and explain that Pop wasn’t actually a terrible album like I did when I was much younger. It just doesn’t matter. I know more about popular music and listen more widely than your average 40-something (or 14-year old in a Def Leppard shirt) … and while I like almost everything across every genre (I’m easy to please) I’m perfectly fine with my all time favorites being super square: U2, REM, Springsteen, and 90s Radiohead.

I also think we are hypersensitive to criticism. Literally 500,000 people bought tickets to Vegas.

And Springsteen was uncool in the 90s.

[TinKnight]

Originally Posted by Gonna Run 2 U

There is a mob mentality when it comes to U2 hate in social settings. Once someone mentions how much U2 (particularly Bono) suck, people tend to join in. It’s always an uphill battle trying to defend them. Gets exhausting.

why would i ever defend bono

[super fly guy]

Originally Posted by TinKnight

why would i ever defend bono

Why would you not?

[dan_smee]

Why do any of you care whether some people out there hate them?

[super fly guy]

Originally Posted by dan_smee

Why do any of you care whether some people out there hate them?

I don't,but sometimes it's with that much venom I have to speak up.

[Gonna Run 2 U]

Originally Posted by super fly guy

I don't,but sometimes it's with that much venom I have to speak up.

Same for your sports team. Gotta stick up for them, even if they’ve sucked for years.

[dan_smee]

Nah. If you stop giving a fuck what morons think you’ll live longer.

[super fly guy]

Originally Posted by Gonna Run 2 U

Same for your sports team. Gotta stick up for them, even if they’ve sucked for years.

Google Dundee FC,and you will see I have had it tough for years!

[david]

I’m 46. I’m too old to defend U2.

[cseggleton]

Originally Posted by super fly guy

For the record,I couldn't give a flying fuck what other people think of them. They are my favourite band and that's that,even got the tattoo to prove it.

This x 1000 sans the tattoos

[super fly guy]

U2songs confirms Atomic City out Friday,and say Adam has a great drum solo in it.






I'm guessing they mean bass.[emoji1787]

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Boo

[super fly guy]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

Boo

Does that mean larry is on bass?[emoji1787]

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Nah I just think it's dumb to release it on the day of the first show. Should have been released yesterday