Danger Mouse being secretive about U2 production...

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I think that DM is quiet because he's got his own music at the moment. He wants his music to be the focus, not his U2 involvement.

Also, and I may be way off base here. I could see that lots of DM fans are people that are not U2 fans. Maybe, just maybe, he's trying to retain his "street cred."

Does WIA have any current releases? Does he have anything else to talk about?
 
We already know that they are. But Bono was specific that DM was one project and that Will.I.Am and some other producers were another project.

Good point, and it could be suggested from recent interviews that they're still two separate projects - if Will.i.am is helping u2 make some stuff at the moment, but Paul McGuiness is saying that they're "not so much writing songs as polishing the album", then maybe the Danger Mouse album will come out early next year, to support the 2011 360 tour, and the Will.i.am album will come out later, like november?

OR, since U2 worked with Danger Mouse over the summer, and now Will.I.am says he played people some (presumably) finished songs (that perhaps just need polishing in Australia?? :hmm: ) maybe the two sets of songs are finished and will indeed be merged into one album? - I think that's the most likely option, because i personally couldn't see u2 releasing 2 albums, but i could see them releasing one with several producers.

Or, perhaps Will.i.am's songs are finished, will be released earlier to tour with, and Danger Mouse's songs aren't (explaining why he won't talk about them - early stages still), and will be released after the tour, perhaps being more experimental?

And finally, maybe both sets of songs have been finished, and both albums will come out early next year, at the same time but separately? This is the option i would love the most, and annoyingly, the option i think will happen when pigs fly.
 
I hope it's two different projects. It would make sense because Will.I.Am was mentioned as a producer of the club album.
 
Also, and I may be way off base here. I could see that lots of DM fans are people that are not U2 fans. Maybe, just maybe, he's trying to retain his "street cred."

Pretty sure only fans think like that.
 
They will put all DM tracks, all WIM tracks and all SOA tracks in a playlist on itunes, then shuffle it. First 12 tracks = album.
 
They will put all DM tracks, all WIM tracks and all SOA tracks in a playlist on itunes, then shuffle it. First 12 tracks = album.
With our luck, EBW will be thirteenth on the list.
And IALW will be the first due to a tagging error.
 
All this misinformation and talk of multiple albums and multiple producers and multiple styles leads me to one conclusion... u2 have no fucking clue what they want to do next.

They never do, do they? Constant changes...

The only time we get solid information is when the finished album has been handed over to the label and things are unable to be altered anymore.

It sucks...because I'd like to know this stuff myself. I'd like for them to tell us something that has some consistency...but the truth is, they don't know what they are going to do. So why should we expect them to be reliable? I don't.

Bono was specific that DM was one project and that Will.I.Am and some other producers were another project.

And Bono is always reliable. :wink:

Look...I know what you mean, I'm not trying to be a total smart-ass. I am confident that Bono/U2 fully intend these to be their own separate things.


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I think we've got to use our critical thinking process here. Since when do U2 do this sort of thing? Try, never. So why all of a sudden does it change? I am sure they want to try to mix things up, do something different. What happened with Howie B? They needed a trusted ear, so they brought in Flood. Chris Thomas...here comes Lillywhite. Rubin...here comes Eno and Lanois. This is not complicated. It will all end up on the same album regardless of what they say or plan on doing at the moment.

When/how are they going to tour to support these several projects? Are they going to skip one entirely? Or do they try to get it all in this coming spring?

Of all the new songs being performed live, how many in number are we talking about? Even if you toss in Winter, you might have 7 or 8 songs. Not enough for an album. Why are they holding back on the rest of them? Maybe this is all they have confidence in. They just released Mercy. Are they going to make a studio version as well? Winter is out in some fashion. Boy Falls From the Sky is on Broadway.

We can't be talking about a ton of material here, folks.
Because rattletrap Bono isn't talking about it. It's all vague 'ideas'.
I think they'll produce 3 or 4 "club songs" maybe half a dozen with DM, and use the rest of the material that is being performed live. Every Breaking Wave or whatever it is...and we'll get what U2 have basically ALWAYS done. The 'Best Of' that period and time.

Finally, they have to eventually start rehearsing the tour resumption.
Which would be...I don't know, April at the latest. And we have the holiday season upon us. You can't be talking about much more than three months of studio time...divided up between two or more projects? With potential Spiderman rewrites on the burner?

So there is no question that some of this material is a LONG ways off from being seen, if it is a full fledged project of its own. But if it weren't...and they were trying as many things as they could, while they had time...we could get an album with a mix of things. I don't like the lack of cohesion either, but I think the days of the 'cohesive U2 album' are sadly, extinct. For other artists, no, I think other artists would rather have something to say, artistically, but U2 are about the craft of 'song' more than anything these days. They'd rather have a 'hit' or three than a classic album. After all, that's the ONLY real reason to work with Will.I.StealmelodiesAnd.Am.UselesswithoutAutotune
 
Inner El Guapo, i couldn't agree more - u2 have always used several producers, and have multiple times backed away from them after working with them (e.g. Rick Rubin). That, coupled with the fact that it's early days yet - and we haven't exactly had any song previews suggesting they're almost done - would suggest there's plenty of time for the band to decide that, no, they don't want to risk dividing their audience with 2 or more completely different albums, and no, they don't want to have an album released after the tour when it can't be promoted, and thus might flop.

I still think what Paul McGuiness said is still probably a lot more honest than Bono's typical exaggeration, which suggests that an album is indeed due for may 2011. However, i really, really don't see it being the first of several released in one go - by march, i wouldn't be surprised if we hear news that the band is in the studio with lillywhite, finishing production on various Will.i.am and Danger Mouse and SoA tracks that, at one time could all have been separated into several albums, but have ultimately been combined, because at the end of the day, 'the next big u2 album' sounds more marketable than 'the first mini-album of several that u2 is releasing as an experimental multi-album release'.

Now that i think about it, if u2 follows the same model that they have been doing post Pop - flirting with some producers, then shying away back to lillywhite, then we're a long way off from an album, as they'll need time to tell Dangermouse and Will.i.am to shove it, before coming up with something safer... if they do that then we're looking more at a november 2011 or march 2012 release. :sad:

However, if they actually want new material to tour with in 2011, and are serious about multiple albums or even just combining DM and William songs, sure, march is viable. That means IMO that an imminent u2 album is dependent on u2 not getting cold feet with the new producers or not. If Bono's not full of hyperbole, and they are seriously planning two albums, and actually have finished songs, we could get something. Unfortunately, considering how many times we've heard they're working with someone new or how the songs are ready and sound completely different, only to not receive a release date for another year, i'm still not sold on the idea of two albums in march.- the only thing that gives me hope is Paul McGuiness's quote, but maybe he was just hyping up the tour, and keeping u2 album rumours in the news? :huh:
 
McGuiness talking deadlines for a May release, saying that they are wrapping up vocals/mixing while on the road in Australia - I certainly wouldn't take that to the bank, but it's pretty good. And they've got a great gap between Australia and South Africa, so they probably wouldn't need to do any wrap up work in Australia unless there really were rapidly looming deadlines.

They've had maybe 8-9 'off' days in Sydney out of the last, what, 13 days? There's a lot of downtime on this leg, and rather than 'following' the tour as they normally do in Australia, they seem to be making an effort to leave Sydney as late as possible before heading to Melbourne/Brisbane, and returning asap afterwards too. Tiny things, but perhaps a bit of evidence that they are 'based' somewhere, working on something.
 
Very good points - talking about deadlines despite the fact they technically have long breaks between all these legs would suggest that they're finishing up! And their presence in Sydney would suggest they're hard at work, which would only be necessary if they were indeed not just messing around, but finishing up!
To contrast with my pessimistic previous post, would there be any chance we could see a new album in January/February? That way, they'd be supporting the tour with a new album not just in the USA, but in South Africa and South America too! :hmm:
 
While I agree that the band could go back to Lillywhite, things are different now.

NLOTH was seen as not living up to expectations, and it was an Eno, Lanios, Lillywhite project. That's the first time that's happened to the band. Pop was Flood, Howie B. and Hooper...Rattle and Hum was Iovine. The big ones (War, TJT, AB, ATYCLB, HTDAAB) have used Lillywhite, Eno and Lanios.

So, now U2 has had a near miss with their most dependable producers. Maybe they will search out something new, even if it goes south.
 
Somebody needs to write a book about Interference someday.

Well there's really no reason for a book because it's all right there in front of you... archived for your pleasure.

Someone just needs to summarize with links.

For example...

One chapter would just be about trolls, and then show links to some of the greatest trolls we've had.

Another chapter would be about album anticipation, and then make links to those who discuss what could happen based on what they've heard...

and another chapter would be based on those that have never made a piece of art in their life but know the mindset, the reason, and can predict how shitty the next album is going to be, and show links.

:hmm:
 
And one for the glorious, glorious bitchfights :love:

Actuall, the troll one is a great idea.... anyone who has been around for ages care to have a crack at that?
 
and another chapter would be based on those that have never made a piece of art in their life but know the mindset, the reason, and can predict how shitty the next album is going to be, and show links.
Actually, I think there would have to be a whole book devoted to this.

Also, there needs to be a chapter devoted to The Oldmanfly Wars.
 
And one for the glorious, glorious bitchfights :love:

Actuall, the troll one is a great idea.... anyone who has been around for ages care to have a crack at that?

That would probably be the best part of writing the Interference book.

I mean, who wouldn't want to retrace the steps of jick, oldmanfly, GibsonExplorer and friends?
 
Heat, Casino, Jackie Brown.

A solid comedy turn in the first Meet The Parents.
:up::up:

And a very underrated City By The Sea.

The only black mark I can think of on DeNiro's career is the Good Shepherd.

And he directed it. And played a major role in it.

Ouch!!

But overall, its been a consistently brilliant career for DeNiro.

Easily my favorite actor.

/apologize for off topic rant.
 
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