The Slow Loris
War Child
'Clocks' anyone? 'Sweetest Thing' anyone?vaz02 said:Big guitar songs sell albums, making a piano and string song to promote the new album is a bad idea.
Not to beat a dead horse.
'Clocks' anyone? 'Sweetest Thing' anyone?vaz02 said:Big guitar songs sell albums, making a piano and string song to promote the new album is a bad idea.
The Slow Loris said:
'Clocks' anyone? 'Sweetest Thing' anyone?
Not to beat a dead horse.
Not to nitpick, but how is that the first Best Of would have sold regardless, while this one -- which has hits from their entire career -- would not sell? I know if I were a casual fan of any band, I would rather buy an album featuring almost all their biggest hits than buying an album that featured only half of them. If anything, I would argue the first best of needed a strong single more than this one does.vaz02 said:
Sweetest thing was the 1st best of and that would of sold great regardless.
Clocks was released on a studio album.
u2 need something special so sell the latest album.
Utoo said:Piano and falsetto are huge in pop right now. I don't think U2 would have a problem selling that at all. However, I wouldn't mind seeing them stay away from that route, as it's a path already heavily trodden.
LemonMacPhisto said:
if most of their new material resembles the beach clips, fast cars, mercy, and love and peace, i'll be mucho happy.
am22884 said:Thank You For The Day is awesome.
Screwtape2 said:
I agree. Their recent work sounds like anything else on radio. U2 is at thier best when radio has a hard time playing them.
Rasden said:
is a song of Lanois... orrible .. imho
Rasden said:
is a song of Lanois... orrible .. imho
The Slow Loris said:
Well, just look at 'Clocks' (and more recently 'Speed of Sound') by Coldplay.....a piano song and a HUGE hit!
I think what made 'Beautiful Day' make me think of the Boy/October era was the earnestness combined with the repetitive power chords (which U2 had hardly, if ever, used in the 1990s). And I think I know what you mean now by the "rough and tumble". It's what I thought you meant....you want U2 to kind of let lose....a less polished "pop" sound, and a more spirited, almost strident yet lose, "rock" sound. I think this is what the Killers sort of aimed for on their latest release and what U2 achieved in some part on Zooropa ('Dirty Day', especially live). If this is what you're after, I think you might get your wish with Rick Rubin in the fold.
Ah, now I understand. No forced innocence....just a more loose approach. Again, I agree with that.
Varitek said:
Haha we both spelled loose wrong once and right once...
I only have one live copy of Dirty Day with me, from Sydney (I'm abroad at the moment, my external with everything is at home) but I just listened to it. I'd say yes, that is some of what I'm aiming for, maybe with a little more Larry (perhaps Saints is a positive indication for me). The guitar sounds really great, especially towards the end. I'm sure I'll love whatever they do, but I've been thinking that maybe my wish is for a less polished album. Not in the way that Pop was less polished, but less smooth, less manicured? If that makes sense. Rough around the edges?
I dunno... i'll probably love whatever they do, I just want to hear it...NOW!!!!!! lol.
"I think that's going to be our biggest song in a long time. It's a psychedelic pop song with 6/8 timing, you never hear that. It's very, very rare," he says.
I agree...writers, musicians, film makers.....we all become obsessed with this idea of editing. Everything has to be edited out, "get rid of the fat"...the leaner the better. Well, life isn't like that, and if art imitates life, but sheds the edges, gets rid of the dirt, doesn't it become rather sterile, if not completely vacuous?Varitek said:so the loose/lose puns: Maybe they think that if they produce a loose album in this age it will be, popularly, a lose situation.
As for the beach clips, that's exactly it - I would give anything to be tipped off as to when they are gonna be hanging out at a beach house and rehearsing brand-spanking-new material. I don't know much about their new producer but it seems that ever since the Pop era, or maybe earlier (some time post-Joshua Tree) they have been overproduced, or too polished, or whatever. That's why the beach clips sound loose - they had worked on them, but only a little. They're more organic.
This drives me crazy - I'm a Harry Potter fan so I'll make an analogy: JK Rowling said book 6 was her best because she really got into a groove and figured out how to cut out all the unneccessary details - basically it was tighter (not loose ) and more polished. Shorter than 4 and 5. But I liked all the superfluous details and tangents - they made the books more real to me. U2 needs to stop cutting the rough edges out (and so does Rowling). Overproduction = bad.