American Soul.
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It's the birthplace of rock n roll. That doesn't justify reusing arguably the worst lyric in a U2 song a second time as a fucking chorus! I quite like the song aside from that - reusing the Glastonbury riff doesn't bug me, but the words are inexcusable. Such a shame! This and Get Out could have been very good.
Gotta get Eno, Lanois and Flood back - I can't imagine any of them letting YOU ARE ROCK N ROLL! onto a record
No, not at all.
They'd never let something as stupid, like, I dunno... BOOM'CHA, MY MAMMY, FORCE QUIT AND MOVE TO TRASH, SEXY BOOTS, LITTLE OLD LADY!!!... onto a U2 record.
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super fly guy
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Vertigo is better than native son which is to clunky,vertigo flows much better.
I like the lyrics to Native Son better, but you are correct - from a song structure perspective Vertigo is definitely better than Native Son.
I love this song...much better use of the 'you are rock n' roll' line than in Volcano. This song is heaping helping of 'rawk' like it's rarely been done by U2 in the past 20 years.
Whatever with the lyrics, there's a drive and a conviction to this song. Bash it, bash me for loving it...I think it's throwback and new all in one...
Agreed. As usual, instead of actually examining the finer points of the song or giving deep critical analysis, several of the dunderheads on this forum simply won't shut up about "refu-jesus", while trying (and failing) to downplay or hand-wave some of the absolutely horrific lyrics from their favorite 80s songs. They seem to have severe cases of Peter Pan-ism, are unable to grow up."
Listen, if you want a hip band with super-cool lyrics, U2 is not going to fit your bill. 90's U2, yes perhaps, but not in any other incarnation. I'd suggest finding a hipster band to latch onto--since that's not my scene I'm not really sure what to suggest.
Yes, this. How do people not understand this?
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super fly guy
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They have always been dorky,And at this stage of their career they won't appeal to the hipster man bun brigade.
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I'm planning to do the same. I don't want to hear too many studio tracks on their own before I can listen to the album as a whole; it would take away from the new U2 album experience. That's why I still haven't listened to "American Soul."
So just make that point... You don't like the song.
K. Got it. No problem.
Let's just stop with this "ehhhrmagad the leeriks is so bahd nahwewww, weeere is Eeenaw und Lunwah?" bullcrap.
The guy's always had incredibly high highs and incredibly low lows.
And Vertigo is light years better than Native Son.
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super fly guy
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Sure is,try singing along to native son. It's hard work,and that's why they changed it.
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I don’t know if I’ve ever found an artist with a greater than 3 disc catalog to be a consistently great lyric writer.
womanfish
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That's pretty funny. I was just thinking last night about a post someone made yesterday about how it seems like no artists can go past about 20 years with falling off in quality.
I would say, it might now always be the artist, but obviously an aging fan base is part of the equation as well.
Anyway, 3 disc catalog may be pushing it. But I was thinking it was pretty impressive that U2 has about 9 albums where I don't really want to skip a track. 2 albums where i skip one or two, and 3 that I skip at least 4 or 5.
Not bad at all. Too bad those 3 were all back to back in a 9 year period...
100% agree. I have sometimes had to work hard in order to not let a bad lyric overwhelm me and change my overall opinion of a U2 song, but over time I've been able to get by it. This really goes all the way back to the beginning for U2, if anyone is being honest about it. There seems to be a truly unwarranted (and unhealthy) obsession for more recent bad, stray Bono lyrics.
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American Soul is 'rock n' roll'...
I don't agree with other parts of your post - "refu-jesus" is stupid in context or isolation, and that Bad lyric is great no matter what - but I totally agree with this. I love the total furphy some of the sadder sacks on this forum peddle, of "hey this lyric would cop loads of shit if Bono sung it now" or "Interference would've hated this if it existed in 1987" or whatever.
Yeah, I'm sure you can prove that. I'm holding myself back from calling some people bellends, but seriously if that's your only comeback to people pointing out how facepalmingly dumb refu-jesus is, you must be pretty shithouse at appreciating any sort of lyrical or written material.
Are you suggesting Vertigo is better than Native Son.
Because if so, log off and reconsider your opinion.
Suggesting? No, I said so explicitly.
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Zoomerang96
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Chalk me up for someone who prefers Native Son over Vertigo.
I dont like either song, but I really, really do not like Vertigo. Along with Elevation, it makes exhibit A of generic crap rock in the band’s repertoire.
Hello, hello, I dont like Vertigo.
This post is turning out to be only moderately less ambitious than the song in question.
As per Axver’s advice, Ill log off now for everyone’s benefit
I dont like either song, but I really, really do not like Vertigo. Along with Elevation, it makes exhibit A of generic crap rock in the band’s repertoire.
Hello, hello, I dont like Vertigo.
This post is turning out to be only moderately less ambitious than the song in question.
As per Axver’s advice, Ill log off now for everyone’s benefit
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That's pretty funny. I was just thinking last night about a post someone made yesterday about how it seems like no artists can go past about 20 years with falling off in quality.
I would say, it might now always be the artist, but obviously an aging fan base is part of the equation as well.
Anyway, 3 disc catalog may be pushing it. But I was thinking it was pretty impressive that U2 has about 9 albums where I don't really want to skip a track. 2 albums where i skip one or two, and 3 that I skip at least 4 or 5.
Not bad at all. Too bad those 3 were all back to back in a 9 year period...
Well I was thinking about the artist I grew up with and admire lyrically and it was always around the 4th that some started to have the more “unforgivable” missteps.
Good, thanks.
LemonMelon
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There is merit in saying that Vertigo is, at the very least, a more successful song than Native Son. Certainly, that's borne out in its sales figures.
Better? I don't know what that means exactly. Native Son is more substantive. Bono's vocal is very good. It checks more boxes for me as a listener. A song's quality is not necessarily tied in with how easy it is to sing along with. But sometimes I read those lyrics and hear those riffs and wonder if they ever belonged together.
Better? I don't know what that means exactly. Native Son is more substantive. Bono's vocal is very good. It checks more boxes for me as a listener. A song's quality is not necessarily tied in with how easy it is to sing along with. But sometimes I read those lyrics and hear those riffs and wonder if they ever belonged together.
kiwilad
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Agreed. Not that it matters. Vertigo did a great job for sales.
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Please, dear god, tell me you're joking.
LemonMelon
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Are you joking?
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