Confirmed! Oral sex reference in "Original of the Species"

LyricalDrug · 11-01-2005, 12:46 AM

Well, I just read the Bono interview in Rolling Stone, and I am here to gloat.

When the new album came out, I wrote a post here about how the line, "And I kneel / cos' I want you some more" had some serious oral sex undertones to it, and I nearly got shouted off the message board! I got laughed at, shouted at, and so on because the song was "for Edge's daughter," and how dare I even suggest something so gross, etc.

And now Bono goes and confirms it -- and this is from memory, but he said something like "Original of the Species was originally for my god daughter, but then I went and eroticized it, and I think it's a lovers' song now."

Eat crow, bee-otches!

cobl04 · 11-01-2005, 01:26 AM

Ha ha, that's pretty cool. But don't count on the fact that that's exactly what it means -- the lyrics to that song could be interpreted a thousand different ways. For example, the line 'and I kneel because I want you some more' could be interpreted to --

-- Kneeling to God to pray some more.
-- Oral sex, like you mentioned.
-- Proposing to get married, so wanting more than just a relation ship.

And so forth. And does Bono always tell the truth?

ElectricalVoice · 11-01-2005, 02:34 AM

Song lyrics is like a poem (it should be), and it has different meanings depending on who listens to it. People say that this song is about that and that song is about this, because Bono said so. As soon as people force the lyrics to have a particular meaning, the lyric gets smaller. It doesn't matter what Bono meant when he wrote it (maybe he even wrote it so that it could have several meanings), what matters is what meaning the lyric gives you. If that is your interpretation of OOTS, that is exactly what the song is to you, and people can shout and scream that Bono didn't write about that, but you proved them wrong, because that is what the lyrics gave you.

chickadee · 11-01-2005, 05:19 AM

The great thing about U2 songs is there's usually more than one interpretation, so there's no need to shout about yours, really.

Someone can always disagree. Even with Bono.

U2Man · 11-01-2005, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by COBL_04
Ha ha, that's pretty cool. But don't count on the fact that that's exactly what it means -- the lyrics to that song could be interpreted a thousand different ways. For example, the line 'and I kneel because I want you some more' could be interpreted to --

-- Kneeling to God to pray some more.
-- Oral sex, like you mentioned.
-- Proposing to get married, so wanting more than just a relation ship.

And so forth. And does Bono always tell the truth?

Bono said nothing about a vulgar meaning.

youarenotimmune · 11-01-2005, 07:05 AM

ahh........bono and his incessant need to plz everybody!!
i wudnt be surprised if bono said this after reading wat u wrote Lyrical Drug

i agree with COBL_04.......u2 lyrics r always mutli-layered. for me this line will always be abt praying for someone u love

MumblingBono · 11-01-2005, 08:31 AM

Meh

One day he'll just go ahead and write a song called "Kneel" so we can all play with the spiritual/sexual possibilities on internet boards. It would only be the 59th time it appears in a U2 song...

RocknRollKitty · 11-01-2005, 08:39 AM

Just because it said it was 'eroticized' doesn't necessarily mean oral sex. At the risk of being in trouble here, I will put this as tastefully as possible: kneeling is not involved in male on female oral sex! It is not comfortable nor practical! It just doesn't work that way. For a dog, maybe, not for a human! Females may kneel to perform it on a sitting male, but male on female, nope, that's not what happens. It is done on the ground on in a bed, usually in a 69 position even if the girl is not doing her half on the other end. Or there is the 'sitting on face' way where the guy is laying on the ground. Again, no kneeling! Therefore, I would say that Bono, surely being experienced, knows this and that is not what he was talking about. Kneeling has NEVER been any kind of reference to oral sex, the 'poetic' term used in songs is usually 'sitting on my face.'

Kneeling is used a lot in HTDAAB, and they are all religious references. So it only makes sense that it is in this song too, now, what he's praying for is open to guessing.

Of course if this post is too nasty a mod can censor it

rjhbonovox · 11-01-2005, 08:41 AM

Bono's a dirrrrrrrty old man!

rjhbonovox · 11-01-2005, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocknRollKitty
Just because it said it was 'eroticized' doesn't necessarily mean oral sex. At the risk of being in trouble here, I will put this as tastefully as possible: kneeling is not involved in male on female oral sex! It is not comfortable nor practical! It just doesn't work that way. For a dog, maybe, not for a human! Females may kneel to perform it on a sitting male, but male on female, nope, that's not what happens. It is done on the ground on in a bed, usually in a 69 position even if the girl is not doing her half on the other end. Therefore, I would say that Bono, surely being experienced, knows this and that is not what he was talking about.

Kneeling is used a lot in HTDAAB, and they are all religious references. So it only makes sense that it is in this song too, now, what he's praying for is open to guessing.

Mmmmm kneeling and oral sex go hand in hand! Read the karma sutra it will enlighten you!

RocknRollKitty · 11-01-2005, 08:45 AM

Umm no.

It doesn't work that way, not male on female.

DrTeeth · 11-01-2005, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocknRollKitty
Umm no. It doesn't work that way, not male on female.

Maybe you just haven't found the right guy yet

Clawgrabber · 11-01-2005, 09:03 AM

it does if she is at the edge of a bed!

DrTeeth · 11-01-2005, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Clawgrabber
it does if she is at the edge of a bed!

Speaking of 'the edge', can we really rule out a bi-curious posibility?

biff · 11-01-2005, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocknRollKitty
Umm no. It doesn't work that way, not male on female.

But it does! I've done it. (Blushes.)

GibsonGirl · 11-01-2005, 09:36 AM

TC · 11-01-2005, 09:49 AM

Sorry RocknRollKitty...last time I checked they're weren't any rules on how a man can and cannot give oral to a woman. I man could give oral hanging upside down, swinging from the ceiling fan if he wanted lol
Maybe you just need to experiment a little more - you know, get creative!

Bono's Doll · 11-01-2005, 10:05 AM

This sounds like a test topic to me! Homework required.

Mrs Adam Clayton · 11-01-2005, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by biff

But it does! I've done it. (Blushes.)

Yeah. Definitely ditto.

Bono's Doll · 11-01-2005, 10:10 AM

I agree--like the old saying "where there's a willie there's a way--I mean will."

11-01-2005, 12:46 AM	#1
LyricalDrug Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 3,236 Local Time: 04:41 PM	Confirmed! Oral sex reference in "Original of the Species" Well, I just read the Bono interview in Rolling Stone, and I am here to gloat. When the new album came out, I wrote a post here about how the line, "And I kneel / cos' I want you some more" had some serious oral sex undertones to it, and I nearly got shouted off the message board! I got laughed at, shouted at, and so on because the song was "for Edge's daughter," and how dare I even suggest something so gross, etc. And now Bono goes and confirms it -- and this is from memory, but he said something like "Original of the Species was originally for my god daughter, but then I went and eroticized it, and I think it's a lovers' song now." Eat crow, bee-otches! __________________

11-01-2005, 01:26 AM	#2
cobl04 45:33 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Point to Shaolin Posts: 59,143 Local Time: 10:41 AM	Ha ha, that's pretty cool. But don't count on the fact that that's exactly what it means -- the lyrics to that song could be interpreted a thousand different ways. For example, the line 'and I kneel because I want you some more' could be interpreted to -- -- Kneeling to God to pray some more. -- Oral sex, like you mentioned. -- Proposing to get married, so wanting more than just a relation ship. And so forth. And does Bono always tell the truth? __________________

11-01-2005, 09:49 AM	#17
TC Babyface Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 22 Local Time: 07:41 PM	News to me... Sorry RocknRollKitty...last time I checked they're weren't any rules on how a man can and cannot give oral to a woman. I man could give oral hanging upside down, swinging from the ceiling fan if he wanted lol Maybe you just need to experiment a little more - you know, get creative!

11-01-2005, 10:10 AM	#20
Bono's Doll New Yorker Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,771 Local Time: 07:41 PM	I agree--like the old saying "where there's a willie there's a way--I mean will." __________________

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11-01-2005, 02:34 AM	#3
ElectricalVoice Refugee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Land of northern lights Posts: 1,436 Local Time: 01:41 AM	Song lyrics is like a poem (it should be), and it has different meanings depending on who listens to it. People say that this song is about that and that song is about this, because Bono said so. As soon as people force the lyrics to have a particular meaning, the lyric gets smaller. It doesn't matter what Bono meant when he wrote it (maybe he even wrote it so that it could have several meanings), what matters is what meaning the lyric gives you. If that is your interpretation of OOTS, that is exactly what the song is to you, and people can shout and scream that Bono didn't write about that, but you proved them wrong, because that is what the lyrics gave you.

11-01-2005, 05:19 AM	#4
chickadee New Yorker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: on The Edge Posts: 2,526 Local Time: 12:41 AM	The great thing about U2 songs is there's usually more than one interpretation, so there's no need to shout about yours, really. Someone can always disagree. Even with Bono.

11-01-2005, 07:05 AM	#6
youarenotimmune Refugee Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,800 Local Time: 05:41 AM	ahh........bono and his incessant need to plz everybody!! i wudnt be surprised if bono said this after reading wat u wrote Lyrical Drug i agree with COBL_04.......u2 lyrics r always mutli-layered. for me this line will always be abt praying for someone u love

11-01-2005, 08:31 AM	#7
MumblingBono War Child Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The State Good Bands Skip Over Posts: 566 Local Time: 12:41 AM	Meh One day he'll just go ahead and write a song called "Kneel" so we can all play with the spiritual/sexual possibilities on internet boards. It would only be the 59th time it appears in a U2 song...

11-01-2005, 08:39 AM	#8
RocknRollKitty Acrobat Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: It's no secret, yes, of course I'm her alter Posts: 379 Local Time: 12:41 AM	Just because it said it was 'eroticized' doesn't necessarily mean oral sex. At the risk of being in trouble here, I will put this as tastefully as possible: kneeling is not involved in male on female oral sex! It is not comfortable nor practical! It just doesn't work that way. For a dog, maybe, not for a human! Females may kneel to perform it on a sitting male, but male on female, nope, that's not what happens. It is done on the ground on in a bed, usually in a 69 position even if the girl is not doing her half on the other end. Or there is the 'sitting on face' way where the guy is laying on the ground. Again, no kneeling! Therefore, I would say that Bono, surely being experienced, knows this and that is not what he was talking about. Kneeling has NEVER been any kind of reference to oral sex, the 'poetic' term used in songs is usually 'sitting on my face.' Kneeling is used a lot in HTDAAB, and they are all religious references. So it only makes sense that it is in this song too, now, what he's praying for is open to guessing. Of course if this post is too nasty a mod can censor it

11-01-2005, 08:41 AM	#9
rjhbonovox Refugee Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,139 Local Time: 01:41 AM	Bono's a dirrrrrrrty old man!

11-01-2005, 08:45 AM	#11
RocknRollKitty Acrobat Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: It's no secret, yes, of course I'm her alter Posts: 379 Local Time: 12:41 AM	Umm no. It doesn't work that way, not male on female.

11-01-2005, 09:03 AM	#13
Clawgrabber War Child Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California (There Is No End To Love) Posts: 992 Local Time: 07:41 PM	it does if she is at the edge of a bed!

11-01-2005, 09:36 AM	#16
GibsonGirl ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 13,270 Local Time: 08:41 PM

11-01-2005, 10:05 AM	#18
Bono's Doll New Yorker Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,771 Local Time: 07:41 PM	This sounds like a test topic to me! Homework required.