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Axver said:
Yeah these are History conferences, for the various peak bodies and specialist groups in Australia and New Zealand. I normally pay around $150-200 for the discounted postgrad/early career researcher rate. The conference dinner is an optional extra of about $70-100 more, and I often skip it to go to the unofficial alternative and eat for $20 at a pub - plus you often meet more interesting people that way.



Do you mean to say the larger ones are the more expensive ones for you? Because usually our largest annual conferences enable the organisers to spread the costs across as wide a pool of attendees as possible.



That said none of this covers accommodation, which is always up to attendees to organise. I've heard of large History conferences in the States booking out an entire hotel for delegates. That would never happen here. The best you can hope for is that the organisers negotiated a discount with nearby hotels/motels or with one of the hosting university's halls of residence.
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Usually here, the large conferences are going to require much bigger and more expensive rental space. For example, the cost to rent a convention center versus a hotel's couple of ball rooms. I've never organized such an event, but I'm willing to bet it's not a function of attendance.

But additionally, you're going to run into larger administration costs of the governing body. Publication on a larger scale is also more expensive. Higher fees for speakers probably don't scale down either. Plus, in tech fields, time is money. So when it comes to plenary speakers and the sort, you're paying what they'd otherwise be making for them to speak at such a conference.
 
LuckyNumber7 said:
Usually here, the large conferences are going to require much bigger and more expensive rental space. For example, the cost to rent a convention center versus a hotel's couple of ball rooms. I've never organized such an event, but I'm willing to bet it's not a function of attendance.

But additionally, you're going to run into larger administration costs of the governing body. Publication on a larger scale is also more expensive. Higher fees for speakers probably don't scale down either. Plus, in tech fields, time is money. So when it comes to plenary speakers and the sort, you're paying what they'd otherwise be making for them to speak at such a conference.
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Ah, none of ours are nearly that big. They are usually held by a university with the plenary sessions in one of the larger lecture theatres, then a number of parallel sessions in smaller theatres or large tutorial rooms. The evening events and sometimes other catered meals are often held in the staff club's lounge or ballroom.

I'm organising a smaller conference now, and we face most of the same costs of a large event. Needing an extra room for parallel sessions or to expand the catering a bit wouldn't up our costs by that much because of economies of scale.
 
Our keynote speaker was NASA director Charlie Bolden.

I totally spoke to him for like 20 minutes with a beer in hand and midway through the conversation I realized who he was ?

But yeah, I don't know what kinda dime AIAA had to throw. Never been in that sort of position, but I do know that such a rate isn't unheard of. That was at the Long Beach convention center and the Hyatt simultaneously. It was basically a vacation for me haha.
 
LuckyNumber7 said:
That's the typical cost of a conference. $1000-2000 a head. Covers rentals for x amount of days, food/catering, staffing, staging, speaker fees, etc. They're not cheap to organize.
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Well all that's fine.

But my question is, if the conference is 1800/head, and as you said most of it obviously goes towards organising the event itself, and that 1800 includes a ticket to the concert, how is it a "charity concert"?

I could understand if the U2 concert was an extra premium, and all proceeds went to charity. But it just sounds to me like SalesForce is making a donation and just calling the concert a "charity concert," even though as far as I can see there's no specific revenue generated by the concert itself.

And is there really any serious suggestion that U2 is only doing this for this charity?
 
Nick66 said:
Well all that's fine.

But my question is, if the conference is 1800/head, and as you said most of it obviously goes towards organising the event itself, and that 1800 includes a ticket to the concert, how is it a "charity concert"?

I could understand if the U2 concert was an extra premium, and all proceeds went to charity. But it just sounds to me like SalesForce is making a donation and just calling the concert a "charity concert," even though as far as I can see there's no specific revenue generated by the concert itself.

And is there really any serious suggestion that U2 is only doing this for this charity?
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They're doing the whole RED campaign there. So there's that. Taking donations etc.

But also think about it this way... someone who has $1800 to blow on a convention has money to donate. But how do you get rich people to donate money? If I just *think* they should contact me, will they? Of course not. You need to advertise your charity.

In this case, it's not just a charity. It's a promotion. The intention of the conference isn't to be a charity.

This is like asking why Clinton would campaign in California, or Trump in Texas. Donors, man. That's where their money comes from.

Plus, it's not like someone who donates money isn't allowed to also spend money.
 
Nick66 said:
And is there really any serious suggestion that U2 is only doing this for this charity?
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No Nick, did you not get your invite? They are doing this whole thing for Larry, and hoping you will save his face.


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@u2gigs 2m2 minutes ago
So we have One, Angel of Harlem, Stuck (piano), EBW (piano), Bullet, BD, Hands snip into Pride, Streets, and California confirmed so far

*shrug*
 
LuckyNumber7 said:
They're doing the whole RED campaign there. So there's that. Taking donations etc.
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Going back to the charity/conference topic for a second, the concert is an event for conference attendees BUT it's also being attended by big name donors to the Children's Hospital. The conference attendees get a free gig as part of their badge and have the option to donate, learn about the cause, etc., but there's a whole separate viewing section, entrance, and after party for high-wealth/non-conference attendees that are paying premiums to see U2 and support the cause.

These two mutually exclusive groups of attendees are essentially sharing the gig with Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff being the common denominator. Benioff is a super generous guy and supports lots of local San Francisco charities/schools/hospitals and this has become one of his premiere fundraising events.

So U2 playing Dreamfest makes sense because of their Salesforce connection, the Benioff connection (Bono and Oseary are quite close with him), the (RED) connection, and because of the UCSFB Hospital charity event.
 
I'm just happy I+E Bullet isn't going anywhere.

Replace California with IALW and then the set looks more plausible
 
LuckyNumber7 said:
They're doing the whole RED campaign there. So there's that. Taking donations etc.

But also think about it this way... someone who has $1800 to blow on a convention has money to donate. But how do you get rich people to donate money? If I just *think* they should contact me, will they? Of course not. You need to advertise your charity.

In this case, it's not just a charity. It's a promotion. The intention of the conference isn't to be a charity.

This is like asking why Clinton would campaign in California, or Trump in Texas. Donors, man. That's where their money comes from.

Plus, it's not like someone who donates money isn't allowed to also spend money.
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PRB216 said:
Going back to the charity/conference topic for a second, the concert is an event for conference attendees BUT it's also being attended by big name donors to the Children's Hospital. The conference attendees get a free gig as part of their badge and have the option to donate, learn about the cause, etc., but there's a whole separate viewing section, entrance, and after party for high-wealth/non-conference attendees that are paying premiums to see U2 and support the cause.

These two mutually exclusive groups of attendees are essentially sharing the gig with Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff being the common denominator. Benioff is a super generous guy and supports lots of local San Francisco charities/schools/hospitals and this has become one of his premiere fundraising events.

So U2 playing Dreamfest makes sense because of their Salesforce connection, the Benioff connection (Bono and Oseary are quite close with him), the (RED) connection, and because of the UCSFB Hospital charity event.
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It's kindof ridiculous that this all needed to be explained, but good job. :up:


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they did The Mamas and the Papas' California Dreaming into California. It was my favorite part of the soundcheck. While we were far from the stage, we were on a hill and had great nightlines to the screens. Pretty fun. Afterward, three of the four members came out and chatted for a bit one by one. (Not Bono - but I left at 8:30). There were only 20 or so of us there, so everyone got to say what they wanted.
 
romi said:
they did The Mamas and the Papas' California Dreaming into California. It was my favorite part of the soundcheck. While we were far from the stage, we were on a hill and had great nightlines to the screens. Pretty fun. Afterward, three of the four members came out and chatted for a bit one by one. (Not Bono - but I left at 8:30). There were only 20 or so of us there, so everyone got to say what they wanted.
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Including "so when is the new album out?" And "is it true you are playing the best thing with Kygo on the 14/15 th


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I was expecting to wake up to about 30 pages dissecting the rehearsals. Only two pages, a third of which is discussing charity events? Come on interference! ;)
 
I don't think anyone thinks or expects anything exciting from Dreamfest. The only thing that provides 0.01% interest is the u2start tweet, and logically that would be the Kygo gigs on 14/15.


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