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Old 05-18-2011, 11:06 AM   #41
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Especially posted beside each other, your avatar and that pic continue to bring the lols...
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:37 AM   #42
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I don't think this is a product of research - a search on Google for "songs about Leonard Peltier" gets no hits related to Bono or Native Son. Admittedly, I gave up after 5 or so pages..

Nah, this was something he had to just know. Good job
Or he just reads Cracked about as frequently as I do. They did an article that mentioned the connection about 4 months ago.
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Or he just reads Cracked about as frequently as I do. They did an article that mentioned the connection about 4 months ago.

Still , if he did he remembered it .
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:04 PM   #44
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If I remember correctly, the story is that one day, in the middle of rehearsing the song with the band, Bono stopped it and said something along the lines of "I can't sing this song every night on tour."

He just didn't feel comfortable with it being the big lead single.
Oops - I noticed my typo (Peltier!). But thanks for this. Where did you read or hear it?

It goes with my thought that perhaps the lyrics make it a bit too polarizing.

"Pride" was itself a bit polarizing, but that works. The big hook in the song makes it a great rocker that has clearly stood the test of time (even if some feel it's overplayed in concert). But "Native Son" might not be that song. With the success of "Vertigo", clearly U2 chose correctly (as for leaving on "A Man and a Woman" over "Fast Cars", uh...).
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Native Son came on that mega-U2-super-deluxe-limited-special-ultimate-edition iTunes download pack didn't it? I guess it's very likely Stewart just had/has that, rather than some highly unlikely image of him stumbling across Native Son while scouring the internets for U2 rarities.
Or maybe JS or one of his researchers only read Peltier's wikipedia page which has a list of songs he has inspired.

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Thats wild...I wouldve thought every regular here would know what Native Son was about.
Is there confirmation beyond a wiki page? Would you have known what Walk On was about by only reading the song's lyrics? Why do a Peltier song 13 years after Rage Against The Machine did one?
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If I remember correctly, the story is that one day, in the middle of rehearsing the song with the band, Bono stopped it and said something along the lines of "I can't sing this song every night on tour."

He just didn't feel comfortable with it being the big lead single.
Sometimes they only know the singles until late in the recording/mixing process. Bono could have known the big high note in the middle of the song would crabshoot on tour - more demanding than "SYCMIOYO".
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Lanois might have turned Bono on to Pelitier. Who might have been turned on to him through Tom Morello of Rage. They are both L.A. buddies.

The reason why Vertigo is more liked than NS is the production is much clearer. As well as the mix. That being said the scream in NS is great.

Initially I thought NS was about 'sons of Irish' because in Ireland a non-native is a person who has come from somewhere else in legal terms. Be it, Europe or Asia.

I would love to see some sources as to NS being about Pelltier.
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Lanois might have turned Bono on to Pelitier. Who might have been turned on to him through Tom Morello of Rage. They are both L.A. buddies.

The reason why Vertigo is more liked than NS is the production is much clearer. As well as the mix. That being said the scream in NS is great.

Initially I thought NS was about 'sons of Irish' because in Ireland a non-native is a person who has come from somewhere else in legal terms. Be it, Europe or Asia.

I would love to see some sources as to NS being about Pelltier.
Rage opened on the Popmart tour, though I'm pretty certain they would have been aware of the RATM song they did back circa ZooTv era.
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Frankly I have always had doubts of the legitimacy of some political prisoners. For example when MLK went to jail in Birmingham, AL. We have to admit that some of their actions are politically motivated.

If Pelltier was on the outside he would probably have a shitty job just trying to make ends meet. I mean how good could life be in North Dakota? Presumably being a chief on an impovrished reserve.
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Bill must be one of the more stupid people in the us...
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If Pelltier was on the outside he would probably have a shitty job just trying to make ends meet. I mean how good could life be in North Dakota? Presumably being a chief on an impovrished reserve.
What does this have to do with anything?

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Bill must be one of the more stupid people in the us...
Not the time or place.
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A battle between two close-minded ding dongs. O'Reilly is equally as full of crap as Stewart.
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A battle between two close-minded ding dongs. O'Reilly is equally as full of crap as Stewart.
I could think of a lot of phrases to describe Stewart but if one was being honest with themselves this wouldn't fit.

But you nailed O'Reilly.
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What does this have to do with anything?
I just think that sometimes being in prison is a political act.
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I just think that sometimes being in prison is a political act.
Civil disobedience is a political act, but to say a lifetime in prison is one is something completely different. Especially if you're arguing that his only reasoning would be that he would have a shitty life in freedom.

This is almost as confusing as your logic argument.
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Bill must be one of the more stupid people in the us...
But you should hear how he hits the high notes! I was particularly impressed with his falsetto. A beautiful, lovely singing voice he has. Just magnificent.
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This is almost as confusing as your logic argument.
You mean my excessive logical argument.

Do you follow me on threads BVS?
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You mean my excessive logical argument.

Do you follow me on threads BVS?
Yes, "excessive logic" or whatever you want to call it.

Ummmm, I posted in this thread before you did, are you following me?

Can you understand how you're not making sense?
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