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dazzledbylight said:
What's different about it?



I only get the internet via my ohone; when I go on this site sometimes I get the simpler (mobile?) version. I scroll down to the bottom and get the - view the full website prompt and the full version.



Why would this app be better?
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The app is a stable version designed around the web forum’s framework (IPv6 or whatever interference is built on). I think it ports that framework to tapatalk’s, a generalized mobile web forum app. That means it’s not just a mobile website but an application designed around your phone’s operating system. Scrolls work better, there’s no pages “embedded” in the browser anymore. Instead it’s just the app (though the reverse exists, you can embed a browser in the app).

Generally I would say it’s faster and more stable and makes you the user less prone towards accidentally hitting something on the web page you didn’t mean to tap. Downfalls are that images don’t always load (but you can use the “view in web browser” feature if that’s the case) and you do require a little bit of forum knowledge to know what subforums you’re going into if you maneuver that way (because you don’t get the descriptions).
 
I realize that it might not do well to speak ill of other websites, though that's not what this response is intended to do at all -- but I often wondered how @U2 got away with having all that copyrighted material on the site (transcriptions of old articles, etc). I loved that stuff, but I always wondered if they might get shut down because of it, the same way U2/Principle/Island/someone corporate tried to shut down fansites that had lyrics all those years ago.

I know that Matt had posted that he was burnt out on the band and was stepping away, and then had to return about a thorny legal issue this past summer. Shortly after that their news archive became much less user friendly and harder to navigate, which made me wonder if someone had come after them for copyright issues. Maybe we'll never know what tipped it all, but I couldn't help wondering...
 
lazarus said:
Seems odd that half the band would show up at the @U2 anniversary party and then sue them.
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I can't see a situation where the band sued them, but I can see a situation where the site finally got on the radar of someone like Rolling Stone, who decided to go after them for copyright infringement. Again, just speculation.

Though it was weird that just four years after having such an epic party, Matt said he was burned-out on the band.
 
I don't know, seeing Best Thing, Get Out, and American Soul released as singles despite being the three worst songs on the album would be enough to disillusion anyone.
 
He obsessed with another, completely mediocre, band iirc. I think they're a religious band, but not Christian Rock. I might be making that part up, though. Isn't McGee a religious nut?
 
lazarus said:
I don't know, seeing Best Thing, Get Out, and American Soul released as singles despite being the three worst songs on the album would be enough to disillusion anyone.
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It was the tour tee designs
 
Hollow Island said:
He obsessed with another, completely mediocre, band iirc. I think they're a religious band, but not Christian Rock. I might be making that part up, though. Isn't McGee a religious nut?
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Fairly sure he is/was a Republican.
 
:lol:

Did he just realize that U2 were left-leaning bleeding hearts?

That explains "no talking politics" rule that came in after Trump was elected.
 
That’s nuts. Fuck him and anyone who was ok with that.

Good riddance. We may be a tough crowd here but at least most of us aren’t opposed to the core values of the band we’re here for.
 
lazarus said:
That’s nuts. Fuck him and anyone who was ok with that.

Good riddance. We may be a tough crowd here but at least most of us aren’t opposed to the core values of the band we’re here for.
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Yeah, we may be a bunch of assholes but we’re not dicks about it.
 
I don't know that it's fair to label Matt McGee some kind of MAGA sympathesizer:

Worse, the live shows weren’t clicking for me, either. As I mentioned above, it was way too over-the-top political. And I don’t mean that in an I-disagree-with-what-they’re-saying way — I didn’t vote for our current president and think he’s an awful president (and worse human being). I mean it in the sense of … I was getting barraged 24/7 by politics, to the point where I had to rethink my entire approach to social media a couple years ago. I needed something else from U2 — an escape, something to take me away from all the B.S. going on in the real world. Instead, they hit me over the head with it for 3 hours during every show I saw on both the Joshua Tree 2017 tour and the Songs of Experience tour in 2018.
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https://www.mattmcgee.com/what-happened-with-u2-and-me/

And for the record, he said that his new favorite band is Gang of Youths.
 
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we had at least half a dozen "U2 suddenly became way too political for me, don't shove it down our throats" posters in FYM in 2015-17. surprise surprise, they were all trumpists!

i'm sure this guy is different, though.
 
“During the whole 3 hours” is a bit rich - the one SOE show I saw, the politics was more or less restricted to the Acrobat intro and some visuals in SATS and Pride. It was there, because they’re U2 and they do that, but you weren’t beaten over the head with it.
 
tommycharles said:
“During the whole 3 hours” is a bit rich - the one SOE show I saw, the politics was more or less restricted to the Acrobat intro and some visuals in SATS and Pride. It was there, because they’re U2 and they do that, but you weren’t beaten over the head with it.
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Absolutely! Acrobat intro and SATS/Pride represented about 10 minutes of the entire show.

Though JT was definitely more overtly political- through the show and in the band members' stated intentions for the tour- you still weren't hit over the head with it for anywhere near the majority of the show.

The only thing that should've even been close to controversial with some people was the trackdown video explicitly mentioning lying Trump (putting aside the fact that there's nothing wrong with stating a well proven fact, lol).

The rest, if anyone has a problem, I've got to laugh, I really do. If people object to U2 pointing out America's bipartisan (though far from perfect) story of welcoming immigrants, of celebrating civil rights and equality, of upholding the dignity of workers and giving a damn about things that happen abroad (global health, poverty, refugees), two things are pretty clear:

1) They are a Trump supporters who are just fine with the fact that he is opposed to all of these previously non controversial values. Maybe you're a little uncomfortable with it being pointed out, but reality is reality.

2) They're projecting something onto the band that they've never been about. "I want to escape from politics at the shows...." Yeah, you're going to have to find a different band for that. :lol:

Nothing blows my mind more than older U2 fans who had no problem with the 1980s political U2 (far more controversial and in your face) all of a sudden taking issue with "being beaten over the head with politics" at shows.

I'd have far more respect for them if they were just honest and said they were right leaning these days and took issue with U2 being the left leaning folks they always have been. Leave aside the debate as to why their politics changed, etc, all good, it's a free world for the most part. But let's be honest here, it's not the band that's changed.

I often hear, mostly from 50+ male U2 fans after shows "great show, but it was too goddamn political." Everything is political. Bono is 100% right about that, and he made it as clear as he ever has in an interview around the time of the SOE release. I'd much rather they say "it was too goddamn liberal" or better yet "it seemed to attack my boy Trump by placing him in contrast to people like Reagan and Kennedy."

That way, we'd know where these critics stand. The fact that they don't frame it that way speaks volumes.
 
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Ah, U2. Classic escapist entertainment. It's a shame that they suddenly became political. If only they'd go back to the simple, fun days that were preserved for eternity in Rattle and Hum.
 
U2387 said:
Absolutely! Acrobat intro and SATS/Pride represented about 10 minutes of the entire show.

Though JT was definitely more overtly political- through the show and in the band members' stated intentions for the tour- you still weren't hit over the head with it for anywhere near the majority of the show.

The only thing that should've even been close to controversial with some people was the trackdown video explicitly mentioning lying Trump (putting aside the fact that there's nothing wrong with stating a well proven fact, lol).

The rest, if anyone has a problem, I've got to laugh, I really do. If people object to U2 pointing out America's bipartisan (though far from perfect) story of welcoming immigrants, of celebrating civil rights and equality, of upholding the dignity of workers and giving a damn about things that happen abroad (global health, poverty, refugees), two things are pretty clear:

1) They are a Trump supporters who are just fine with the fact that he is opposed to all of these previously non controversial values. Maybe you're a little uncomfortable with it being pointed out, but reality is reality.

2) They're projecting something onto the band that they've never been about. "I want to escape from politics at the shows...." Yeah, you're going to have to find a different band for that. :lol:

Nothing blows my mind more than older U2 fans who had no problem with the 1980s political U2 (far more controversial and in your face) all of a sudden taking issue with "being beaten over the head with politics" at shows.

I'd have far more respect for them if they were just honest and said they were right leaning these days and took issue with U2 being the left leaning folks they always have been. Leave aside the debate as to why their politics changed, etc, all good, it's a free world for the most part. But let's be honest here, it's not the band that's changed.

I often hear, mostly from 50+ male U2 fans after shows "great show, but it was too goddamn political." Everything is political. Bono is 100% right about that, and he made it as clear as he ever has in an interview around the time of the SOE release. I'd much rather they say "it was too goddamn liberal" or better yet "it seemed to attack my boy Trump by placing him in contrast to people like Reagan and Kennedy."

That way, we'd know where these critics stand. The fact that they don't frame it that way speaks volumes.
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You nailed it.
 
I’ve seen every tour multiple times since my adulthood began at the end of the 2000s and I’ve never felt U2 was particularly American-political (“Ted Cruz in the house!”).

It was always my feeling that they weren’t even remotely political enough against Donald Trump, which irked me to no end.
 
Compared to what Roger Waters did, they were wimps. They did everything possible not to offend their fanbase, to the JT30 tour’s detriment IMO.
 
At the SOE show I saw (in Omaha NE), B made a quick comment about gun control, I think in the speech before One, and I thought it was one of his more well thought through comments, it was something like “as an outsider looking in, we just find all these guns really hard to understand.” It was a nice way to poke your audience into thinking about their beliefs a bit without saying “you stupid hicks” or whatever.
 
At the Pittsburgh JT30, I was standing behind three or four women who (trying not to be mean, but were very archetypal MAGA types) starting flicking the band off and yelling "Fuck YOUUUUU!!!!!" during Ultraviolet's tribute to women. America is, much like Mona Lisa Sapperstein, the wwwooooOOoOOoOOooorrrrssssssttttttttttttt.
 
pacemaker said:
At the Pittsburgh JT30, I was standing behind three or four women who (trying not to be mean, but were very archetypal MAGA types) starting flicking the band off and yelling "Fuck YOUUUUU!!!!!" during Ultraviolet's tribute to women. America is, much like Mona Lisa Sapperstein, the wwwooooOOoOOoOOooorrrrssssssttttttttttttt.
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it's ok. you can be mean when it comes to MAGA women booing other women. there's no sympathy left for these folks after yesterday. or even before.



anyway, i think JT, given it's gigantic stadiums and scope of it's markets, and the fact that it was before, say, throwing children in cages, was a plea to come together and recognize the humanity in the other side. this was back when we were explaining Trumpism as an "expression of economic insecurity" or something.

by the time e/i came around, and with smaller audiences and bigger Trump atrocities, i thought they were much more political and much more anti-fascist. i've seen every tour since 1997 and this was easily the most political i'd seen them, and i walked out of both shows ready to punch some Nazis.
 
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