Achtung Baby/ Zooropa remaster/ reissue - Part IV/Four

[Blue Room]

For the record, I took "beyond the pale" in the context it was used in this thread as negative or at least semi negative. Apparantly I was not the only one. Whether that was the intent or not I'm not sure. It certainly was not being used in a positive fashion despite what was said after the fact. But Niceman has "clarified" sort of. I will leave it at that.

Achtung Baby is my second favorite U2 album. It is a great album. I CAN listen to it all the way through, it is that good to me (there are few albums by any artist, period, that I can do that with an album). However, sometimes I do not listen to the whole thing. When I do not, typically Acrobat is one of the songs I may skip. I think it is decent but not great. Lyrics great, Edge solo great, song as a whole, just OK. Like I said before, I will be very interested as to what the demo sounds like. I actually enjoy the Hansa version of it. I like Edge's guitar riff better on the demo.


BUT, is it remastered??????

 

[canedge]

I actually enjoy the Hansa version of it. I like Edge's guitar riff better on the demo.

Where did you hear the Hansa and demo version of it?

 

[Swan269]

Where did you hear the Hansa and demo version of it?

U2 "ACROBAT" from THE COMPLETE HANSA TON RECORDINGS BERLIN 1991 (audio only) - YouTube

 

[canedge]

thanks, maybe this will be the "baby' version.

 

[dan_smee]

These aren't the baby versions.

There are about 10 CD's worth from these recordings, all fairly early on in the recording process. It is before many of the album songs existed.

The baby versions will be much more like the finished versions, just fairly unpolished sketches, maybe different lyrics, but very similar on the whole.

 

[canedge]

so when is HTDAAB remaster coming out?

 

[Swan269]

so when is HTDAAB remaster coming out?

same day as AB's

 

[theedgeu2]

same day as AB's

But is it remastered?

 

[Blue Room]

These aren't the baby versions.

There are about 10 CD's worth from these recordings, all fairly early on in the recording process. It is before many of the album songs existed.

The baby versions will be much more like the finished versions, just fairly unpolished sketches, maybe different lyrics, but very similar on the whole.

You are probably right, but Where Did It All Go Wrong was released as a B side and it was "almost" identical to what was on the Hansa Bootleg. Salome' isnt a ton different other than having lyrics over what was on the Hansa bootleg either. I think it will be further along in the process like you indicated, but some of the demos are going to sound very similiar to some of the stuff on Hansa, but a tad more polished and some will sound similiar to what ended up on AB except a little less polished or different lyrics. So my "guess" is a little of both will be on the baby CD. I can't wait to hear it either way.

 

[canedge]

possibly the Soundtrack version of Until the End of the World will be a "baby"

 

[Nick66]

same day as AB's

 

[breathe]

Anyone remember how their was supposed to be an ipad app for the remaster?

 

[BVS]

Source?

 

[theedgeu2]

McGuiness said something about an iPad app and it was on atu2.com back in July. I don't have the link though.

 

[lazarus]

The baby versions will be much more like the finished versions, just fairly unpolished sketches, maybe different lyrics, but very similar on the whole.

You seem very sure of yourself.

 

[lazarus]

I actually enjoy the Hansa version of it. I like Edge's guitar riff better on the demo.

U2 "ACROBAT" from THE COMPLETE HANSA TON RECORDINGS BERLIN 1991 (audio only) - YouTube

LOL, the guitar on this version sounds like it could be from Rattle and Hum, and doesn't sound anywhere near as dark or atmospheric as what was on the album.

I guess it's better if you prefer a more generic-sounding U2.

 

[nathan1977]

FWIW: just got an email from Amazon telling me the 2-disc was finally available for official pre-order, and every track of the original album is tagged as a remaster.

 

[Blue Room]

LOL, the guitar on this version sounds like it could be from Rattle and Hum, and doesn't sound anywhere near as dark or atmospheric as what was on the album.

I guess it's better if you prefer a more generic-sounding U2.

LOL, I guess in this case I do because I do not care for Edge's riff on Achtung Baby. I do not think it works all that well, seems forced to me. I actually like a lot of songs on Rattle and Hum. So maybe that is it. Hawkmoon 269, God Part II and All I Want Is You are 3 of my favorite U2 songs.

I'm glad my musical "opinion" and taste is amusing to you. This post is yet another example of what was discussed earlier.

I guess sometimes its better to say nothing at all if you have nothing positive to say or if you are just belittling someones opinion, especially if it is the generic-sounding Acrobat defense babble.

 

[Hollow Island]

LOL, the guitar on this version sounds like it could be from Rattle and Hum, and doesn't sound anywhere near as dark or atmospheric as what was on the album.

I guess it's better if you prefer a more generic-sounding U2.

It's really generic. That's how I imagine they'd do it now, with straight chords rather than an actual riff. They really transformed that one. That version seems like it would have been abandoned.

 

[last unicorn]

Amazon.de, where I ordered my stuff, still says "Remastered" with ALL editions.

 

[lazarus]

I hate to sound pessimistic, but Amazon probably doesn't even have their hands on this product in their warehouses yet. So it's difficult for me to believe their listings supersede an intentional REMOVAL of the word "remaster" on U2's own website.

 

[TheEdge25]

I love listening to the demo tapes from Hansa studios on YouTube. It is so interesting to me how this band writes their songs. Just one long jam session with Bono rambling a bunch of crap until he comes up with something amazing. Incredible that that process has worked for them for so long.

 

[Nick66]

I love listening to the demo tapes from Hansa studios on YouTube. It is so interesting to me how this band writes their songs. Just one long jam session with Bono rambling a bunch of crap until he comes up with something amazing. Incredible that that process has worked for them for so long.

It's worked to varying degrees, at least lyrically. Bono has got to be the most inconsistent prominent lyricist in rock music. He can create stunning, thoughtful, beautiful lyrics on one hand (reaching a peak in the 90's), and (more recently) produce some pretty inane stuff. NLOTH has some great stuff lyrically, but some of it is just cringeworthy (going with the overall inconsistency of the entire album). And the lyrics of the "post" NLOTH stuff is even worse.

 

[BVS]

And the lyrics of the "post" NLOTH stuff is even worse.

 

[Caleb8844]

I was pretty impressed with "Boy Falling from the Sky" and "Every Breaking Wave"...

 

[slimongi]

Bad whispers??

(No confirmation) but Some whispers said that the cds are not remastered & the documentary "from the sky down" would not be included with the Uber Box!

Wait&See

 

[Galeongirl]

(No confirmation) but Some whispers said that the cds are not remastered & the documentary "from the sky down" would not be included with the Uber Box!

Wait&See

Again? When are you going to stop stirring shit by pretending you have "sources".

All sources state that FTSD is included in the Uber box. Plus, the disc can be seen in the photos.
http://achtungbaby.u2.com/

COMPLETE WITH PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED SONGS AND "FROM THE SKY DOWN" A NEW DOCUMENTARY BY DAVIS GUGGENHEIM.

And I'm not even going to bother with the remaster shite.

 

[mikal]

umm....yeah. the whispers are on this site for the last 2 months, lol!

 

[BVS]

(No confirmation) but Some whispers said that the cds are not remastered & the documentary "from the sky down" would not be included with the Uber Box!

Wait&See

Why do you even try?

We just have to go back and read all your other posts to see you're a liar.

 

[mikal]

Why do you even try?

We just have to go back and read all your other posts to see you're a liar.

i don't think he's a liar, i just think he has a "source" that really isn't that high on the food chain.