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Well, the Easter Vigil is my favorite service of the year. It is the first Easter service I ever went to after becoming a Christian at age 17, and I've always greatly preferred it to Easter morning. The Vigil lasts two or three hours, and starts in the dark, and you hear stories of what God...

Hey Deb! Great to hear from you!!

Pat, what an interesting topic. As someone who was an American fan at that time, I have to second the remark that America had already been more than fully cracked. If anything, the situation was that U2 was way way overexposed here, and R&H was a marketing misstep, pushing them over a line...

I have this book on my saved EBay searches, and there's another copy up now - seller is in the U.K. but will ship to US. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2521219242

Hey, I just wanted to drop back into this thread to thank you for this recommendation. I ordered that book and am about 1/3 of the way into it. I find his style a bit wooden and clinical, but it's one of the first things I have read that really steps back from particular arguments and tries to...

Bonosloveslave's link is great! In supporting the idea that God calls women to teach and be pastors, along with the information in that link above, I might also just point out that once you decide to take the path of treating statements like these as legalistic requirements, it is difficult to...

We've talked on here a couple times about this book and what great insights it has into U2's spiritual views. I was browsing EBay today and there are two copies for sale with no bids on them yet, as of right now. No, I'm not the seller or anything, I just know a lot of Christian U2 fans have...

I am really looking forward to hearing some of us talk about this song... My reading is that there is, for once, only one "You" in this U2 song, and that the "You" is explicitly named in the last verse as Jesus. So IMHO he's talking to Jesus throughout, describing all these things he's done...

Ha! Why does this not surprise me one bit....?

LOL! You can say that again! Funny though, it hits me now it's the same with everyone personal -- I mean, can we really **completely** even understand a best friend, a spouse? No....

a few more he's mentioned over the years What's So Amazing About Grace, Philip Yancey The Book of Judas, Brendan Kennelly Flannery O'Connor (can't remember which - the stories??) someone already said Yeats--- Yeats is huge! Salman Rushdie and of course the Bible! most recently in the "Message"...

Hmmm. I think that might be true if Martha was asking something like "how do you interpret Bible passages about women's roles?" or "in church, do you use printed prayers or make up the words as you go along?" or "how do you decide when to support your government and when to oppose it?" But...

Fortunately, I've already got it! But it went for like $27...

It's an incredible book. There is, it happens, a copy on EBay NOW http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3501002140&category=2245 ending TODAY Feb-19-03 17:10:59 PST

Kigakazi - yeah, I like the water and ice and steam thing too. I think it works. (Nice to see someone else from the Anglican family on here, by the way.)

Thank *you* for indulging us and being so open to listen as we try to put difficult stuff into words! Again, I hope I'm stating the standard mainstream Christian position here: One God, in three persons (Father Son and Holy Spirit) always has been (which means, by the way, that relationship is...

The quotes worked! Woo hoo!!! :)

I'm going to try to do separate quotes... wish me luck!! ;-) Well, thanks. And-- Once God becomes incarnate in Jesus, it stays that way forever. Humanity and deity are permanently joined in him. It's called the "Chalcedonian definition." I'm an Episcopalian and we have a section in our...

Martha, I'm glad you're finding this interesting and helpful. I haven't really ever heard a Christian use the word "manifested," and from my POV, I'd feel a little uncomfortable with it. To me, it sounds temporary, or just an appearance, or a disguise for our benefit, such that this being...

Avatar is, if I'm not mistaken, originally a Hindu term meaning a manifestation of one of the Hindu deities in a particular form, and that part of this idea is that there have been many avatars for many ages in many forms. I know people who are essentially of that outlook and regard Jesus as...

Yup -- 100% God and 100% man, that's the classic Christian understanding of what Jesus was, is, and always will be -- and what I believe as well. I can't put it better than Bono did on the Heart of America tour: <i> ?That there is a force of love and logic behind the universe is overwhelming...

Well, if you're coming up the East Coast, Boston would seem a natural stop. You could go see "twenty years ago...a place we'll never get over.... Paradise." The Paradise Rock Club, where they played 2 early gigs and where the famous boot "Another Time Another Place" was recorded, is at 969...

Not John-related, but just a comment: altho the vast majority of Christians baptize infants, not all those who practice infant baptism do it for that reason. My denomination does it as a sign that God's grace always precedes our action, and that just as we are born into a family without...

Um.... Except Bono isn't Catholic....!:p He did say in one interview on the heartland tour that he supposed it was probably his faith that motivated him, however. I think it was on Larry King that he specifically dismissed the John Lennon "Imagine" concept in favor of real political action...

this is a pretty great list for a start. http://www.atu2.com/news/article.src?ID=2471 for Popmart, I'd go for Shalom Israel and/or Sarajevo.