The big uncomfortable question no one wants to ask

[JUSTinPUSHPLAY]

See, that's the problem though. Your friend must have been aware of this when she bought the ticket, but she made the choice to buy it that way. So you can look at it as her being "punished," but you can also look at it as why should the latecomer be rewarded with a spot they didn't earn? The argument always is, it's only one person...but what happens if the hundred or two hundred people in front you of feel the same way? EVERYONE behind you when the latecomer arrives, after legitimately putting in the time in line, is being pushed back however many spots that them and the other latecomers take up. And that's not fair.

This is an issue every tour, with people wanting to hold spots for their late-arriving friends. The difference is, this time the people who bought tickets together are being forced to enter together, but still, it's the same principle. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand.

ETA - the other argument I don't understand is...well, I asked the people around me, and they're fine with my friend arriving late. The thing is, something like this doesn't just affect the two or four or six people directly behind you. It affects people that are 100 behind you just as much as it affects those who are within a few. Unless you've polled the entire line, the opinions of those right around you are meaningless.

So the answer is make them get in the back of the line, with my friend, and then not get to enjoy the show with her and take the chance of having her on the opposite side of the venue? She bought her ticket that way because ticketmaster would only let me get two GA tickets, and sadly I have more than one friend that enjoys U2. So she had to get it by other means. She's flying down here from Portland to see the show with me, so the line is just gonna have to understand.

 

[VintagePunk]

Yes, of course. Everyone's situation is a special one deserving of understanding from the rest of the line.

 

[bfloxng]

I don't think it's right either, but my friend who bought a ticket from them is gonna be there in line with me at 7am, and she shouldn't be punished because they can't be there early either.

No offense as well, but it's not "punishment." There are going to be plenty of people with this dilemma. My guess is some lines will be forgiving as long as a significant amount of time is spent in the line (ie a party arriving a few hours after the other). However, where the difference is 12 hours or more, I don't see people being so accommodating. To ask the opposite question, "Why would someone who shows up late (ie has different priorities) be rewarded? Ultimately, the late arrival is going to cost SOMEBODY (who got their earlier...perhaps 50 people down the line) a rail spot if he/she is allowed to cut in.


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[bfloxng]

So the answer is make them get in the back of the line, with my friend, and then not get to enjoy the show with her and take the chance of having her on the opposite side of the venue? She bought her ticket that way because ticketmaster would only let me get two GA tickets, and sadly I have more than one friend that enjoys U2. So she had to get it by other means. She's flying down here from Portland to see the show with me, so the line is just gonna have to understand.

I love the "so and so is flying in" so the line is just gonna have to understand. So...what you're saying is because your friend has the ultra-unusual circumstance of flying in too late to get in line with you, she's nevertheless ENTITLED to a spot ahead of others who were in line first. Makes sense to me. Entitlement Syndrome.


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[bfloxng]

Yes, of course. Everyone's situation is a special one deserving of understanding from the rest of the line.

?????


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[weinerdog]

So the answer is make them get in the back of the line, with my friend, and then not get to enjoy the show with her and take the chance of having her on the opposite side of the venue? She bought her ticket that way because ticketmaster would only let me get two GA tickets, and sadly I have more than one friend that enjoys U2. So she had to get it by other means. She's flying down here from Portland to see the show with me, so the line is just gonna have to understand.

Nobody is stopping you from joining them in the back of the line when they arrive. Anything else isn't fair to anyone who lined up sooner, no matter how much to try to spin it.

 

[bfloxng]

Nobody is stopping you from joining them in the back of the line when they arrive. Anything else isn't fair to anyone who lined up sooner, no matter how much to try to spin it.

But she's flying in from Portland!! (And therefore entitled because no one flies in for a show).


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[clerks]

If you're under 25 and a girl, I bet you can get away with anything. Just saying. I can't recall one line to any venue where someone didn't cut even with they had assigned seats. Sometimes you get angry when it's a big drunk dude, but most of the time, I see another U2 fan, I assume they aren't just being dicks and are just joining their friends. Relax and try. If may not work out. But I don't think it's that important either way.

All I see at GA is people rushing the stage when band comes on and it being a total mess regardless of who got there at 7am or 5 minutes before.

Good luck.

 

[mikal]

If you're under 25 and a girl, I bet you can get away with anything. Just saying. I can't recall one line to any venue where someone didn't cut even with they had assigned seats. Sometimes you get angry when it's a big drunk dude, but most of the time, I see another U2 fan, I assume they aren't just being dicks and are just joining their friends. Relax and try. If may not work out. But I don't think it's that important either way.



All I see at GA is people rushing the stage when band comes on and it being a total mess regardless of who got there at 7am or 5 minutes before.



Good luck.

More like if you're under 25 and a girl, give me your digits.


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[VintagePunk]

More like if you're under 25 and a girl, give me your digits.


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!!!!!

 

[mikal]

!!!!!

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[RioRhodes]

If you're under 25 and a girl, I bet you can get away with anything. Just saying. I can't recall one line to any venue where someone didn't cut even with they had assigned seats. Sometimes you get angry when it's a big drunk dude, but most of the time, I see another U2 fan, I assume they aren't just being dicks and are just joining their friends. Relax and try. If may not work out. But I don't think it's that important either way.

All I see at GA is people rushing the stage when band comes on and it being a total mess regardless of who got there at 7am or 5 minutes before.

Good luck.

Soooo... I'm a girl under 25... So I'm good...

Here's the thang. For Night 2, I have a ticket with a group of 4 who are showing up WAY later than me. HOWEVER. One is in a wheelchair and not going to do GA, and the other two are suiteholders and are just gonna go up to their suite. So I'm thinking I can probably explain to those around me that I'm the only one who's doing GA in the lot.

 

[weinerdog]

But she's flying in from Portland!! (And therefore entitled because no one flies in for a show).

Perhaps two GA lines?

Line 1: Those flying in from (insert friend's departure city) and their friends already at the venue waiting for them

Line 2: Everybody else

I'm sure the folks who started lining up Monday night wouldn't have an issue with it.

 

[Liesje]

I do not understand why people are making plans like plane tickets and whatnot assuming it is OK to hop the line and get in with the person who bought your ticket (or have them hop the line)? We all knew about this well in advance. Does the new policy screw fans? Yeah, but no matter what happens they solve one problem and create another. Nothing new. I am going as one of a group of four and (two couples) and the other couple still has not committed to when they will arrive or how long they want to be in line so we bought all our sets of tickets *separately* using our own pre-sale codes and general sales. I also bought tix for a show I wasn't sure I could attend but knowing that it was CC entry, used a different card I would be OK letting my sis or a really close friend use to get in if I had to give them my "tickets". It was a HUGE pain in the ass and I wasted a lot of time at work across several days in sales trying to get the tix we needed on various CC cards but we made it work so that we don't have to worry about who is where in line or be effed if I can't see a second show or the other couple bails. So, in short, I'd be royally pissed if someone thought they could just hop in line with people who have been waiting 5+ hours longer (or been there overnight) because they made assumptions about the ticketing policies not being enforced.

 

[bfloxng]

Perhaps two GA lines?



Line 1: Those flying in from (insert friend's departure city) and their friends already at the venue waiting for them



Line 2: Everybody else



I'm sure the folks who started lining up Monday night wouldn't have an issue with it.

Line 2 would probably be empty ?


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[Liesje]

For Night 2, I have a ticket with a group of 4 who are showing up WAY later than me. HOWEVER. One is in a wheelchair and not going to do GA, and the other two are suiteholders and are just gonna go up to their suite. So I'm thinking I can probably explain to those around me that I'm the only one who's doing GA in the lot.

But I don't think you can enter at gates that aren't for the right type of ticket? How would they enter the GA gates even if you convinced the line they weren't actually doing GA? Did they purchase different sections of tickets on that card?

 

[JUSTinPUSHPLAY]

None of this stuff about north and south floors was revealed when tickets when on sale. So the assumption was yeah we'd be there a few hours before the other party but if she has to go in with them that maybe she could find us in the pit after. But now with the devision it's a whole different. I'm not trying to make my situation seem any more special than anyone else's. It's not. I just wanna enjoy the show with my friend and I would hope that line would maybe accommodate. I got to 360 at 6 am and the group right in front of us had 4 join them in line 2 hours later and no one said a peep. Was just hoping for a little of that. I don't wanna see the show with these people, but they hold the key to my friends entrance. I have to try.

 

[Liesje]

It's like before when we got scanned into the ellipse. Say you're with a group of 4 and only one ticket scanned, that meant you split up or no one went in, even if you were #10, 11, 12, 13 in line and had been waiting since the night before. Like others have said, all these sorts of issues have come up before with slightly different manifestations. Just the nature of GA lines these days I guess. I'm going with a group of 4 (2 tix on 2 cards, different presales) so I'm in the same boat

 

[VintagePunk]

I'm not trying to make my situation seem any more special than anyone else's.

That's exactly what you're doing, though.

If being with your friend is the priority for you, you have the option of lining up back with them, when the ticket buyers arrive.

 

[bfloxng]

None of this stuff about north and south floors was revealed when tickets when on sale. So the assumption was yeah we'd be there a few hours before the other party but if she has to go in with them that maybe she could find us in the pit after. But now with the devision it's a whole different. I'm not trying to make my situation seem any more special than anyone else's. It's not. I just wanna enjoy the show with my friend and I would hope that line would maybe accommodate. I got to 360 at 6 am and the group right in front of us had 4 join them in line 2 hours later and no one said a peep. Was just hoping for a little of that. I don't wanna see the show with these people, but they hold the key to my friends entrance. I have to try.

Honestly I don't think people will have a problem with an hour or two. I know I wouldn't. It's when you get to 4 hours late on show day that people might not be so accommodating.


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[theoeiii]

This thread is priceless. The same one happens more or less verbatim for every tour. Three months of clinically insane worrying about everything anyone could possibly worry about, then everyone - believe it or not, fucking sees U2 - and comes out happy in the end.

People will always cut lines, and people in those lines will always stomp their feet and say, can you believe this fuckin guy?! And then do nothing. Disneyworld, the DMV, or U2, it's always going to be that way.

Be nice to the people around you. It's all gonna be okay.

Deep breaths everybody.


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[U2Girl1978]

This thread is priceless. The same one happens more or less verbatim for every tour. Three months of clinically insane worrying about everything anyone could possibly worry about, then everyone - believe it or not, fucking sees U2 - and comes out happy in the end.

People will always cut lines, and people in those lines will always stomp their feet and say, can you believe this fuckin guy?! And then do nothing. Disneyworld, the DMV, or U2, it's always going to be that way.

Be nice to the people around you. It's all gonna be okay.

Deep breaths everybody.


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Shhhhhh. Stop trying to make sense!

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

This thread is priceless. The same one happens more or less verbatim for every tour. Three months of clinically insane worrying about everything anyone could possibly worry about, then everyone - believe it or not, fucking sees U2 - and comes out happy in the end.

People will always cut lines, and people in those lines will always stomp their feet and say, can you believe this fuckin guy?! And then do nothing. Disneyworld, the DMV, or U2, it's always going to be that way.

Be nice to the people around you. It's all gonna be okay.

Deep breaths everybody.


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Well there is a difference on this tour..

In the past there was no reason why a late arrival HAD to go in with somebody who had waited all day other than to just be a douchebag. And I have seen people do things about it... or at least try. Sometimes with success (i.e. the person who cut gets booted to the back), and sometimes without success.

But with CC entry all parties whose tickets were purchased on a particular card must enter the venue at the same time. So it's certainly worth a discussion.

 

[gump]

If I have paper tickets for GA (I believe MSG is one of the places where they do this), can I actually exchange them for GA tickets for another night (with another fan, I mean)? In other words, will they require the other person's credit card to give me access?

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

If it's MSG to MSG you won't have an issue.

If it's to another show, you'd need to have the person's credit card to enter... which could present a bit of a pickle.

 

[gump]

Thanks, good to know. It's MSG to MSG, so I should be fine.

 

[anitram]

Some people really are entitled.

To be honest, this CC system kind of screwed me in the end because I bought 2 pairs of GAs to two different shows. I now no longer want to or can do GA due to being knocked up, but it's basically impossible for me to trade these tickets with somebody who has a seat because clearly I also have no intention of lining up with them there all day, or taking the afternoon off to make sure I can be at the venue early enough to be present when they start doing the ticket checks or whatever.

There is really no bad spot in GA, and to be perfectly honest, given all the photos/video I saw of last night, for the first time in a long time, the GA is really not the best place to be anyway.

 

[bfloxng]

This thread is priceless. The same one happens more or less verbatim for every tour. Three months of clinically insane worrying about everything anyone could possibly worry about, then everyone - believe it or not, fucking sees U2 - and comes out happy in the end.

People will always cut lines, and people in those lines will always stomp their feet and say, can you believe this fuckin guy?! And then do nothing. Disneyworld, the DMV, or U2, it's always going to be that way.

Be nice to the people around you. It's all gonna be okay.

Deep breaths everybody.


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This post is priceless

"Disneyworld, the DMV, or U2, it's always going to be that way." Well, I'll be DAMNED if someone cuts me at DMV!

 

[bfloxng]

Whelp it's official at SJ there is no "holding" spots in line.

http://sapcenter.s3.amazonaws.com/doc/Handout-GA-Line-Management-U2-Updated.pdf

So I guess this settles the question.


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[dazzledbylight]

This thread is priceless. The same one happens more or less verbatim for every tour. Three months of clinically insane worrying about everything anyone could possibly worry about, then everyone - believe it or not, fucking sees U2 - and comes out happy in the end.

People will always cut lines, and people in those lines will always stomp their feet and say, can you believe this fuckin guy?! And then do nothing. Disneyworld, the DMV, or U2, it's always going to be that way.

Be nice to the people around you. It's all gonna be okay.

Deep breaths everybody.


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Im nice to the folks around but i didn't think about this issue playing to try and get a GA for MSG already have seats w my sib for 1 show.

It MATTERS dearly to me that I am in first or second row for GA.
a non-professional buy very good R&R Concert photographer from 71 onwards.
(actually sold a few and won a mag contest with a photo!
I've ALL my fav bands and others up close with Film SLR in hand The Who, Brice, Patti SMith,but crummy seays for u2 from 84 on and couldn't go to 83 show that i had tix for.

I only had luck with U2 GA when a u2 fan bud got me GA seats 09. And 1 GA in 11. i waited on line for hours to be at front (outer rail 360) I want one more time!