Random Music Talk XXXVII: Powerhour cares more about Spotify than you do

[LemonMelon]

Well since MMT has songs/singles recorded during the Peppers session as well as ones made over 6 months later, one really can't call it an album. Otherwise, you may as well include the Past Masters volumes

Uh no. I hate that we have this argument EVERY SINGLE TIME the record gets brought up, but it's not at all comparable to Past Masters, which has no original material. It's more similar to Yellow Submarine, which contains an EP of original material. I also included that on my list.

 

[bono_212]

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This is possibly one of my favorite posts ever.

How had I overlooked Lindsey Buckingham's I Know I'm Not Wrong on Tusk?

What a great track.

Jesus, I love that song! The falsetto "Don't Blame Me" part actually makes me a little teary for some reason.

My obsession with Fleetwood Mac quickly turned to depression last night when I realized that I had erroneously thought there were a few good albums left for me to hear. In reality, all that's left if Say You Will and then all but Then Play On from the Peter Green era, which I'm not super interested in.

 

[lazarus]

Uh no. I hate that we have this argument EVERY SINGLE TIME the record gets brought up, but it's not at all comparable to Past Masters, which has no original material. It's more similar to Yellow Submarine, which contains an EP of original material. I also included that on my list.

Well right, it's not a singles/b-sidea compilation but it IS an EP with singles tacked on for the American market. Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane were released before Sgt Pepper even came out!

If people want to rank that thing MINUS side two and call it legit, go right ahead. But we've all been conditioned to hear it as one piece, which it's not, so rank it as a listening experience but asterisk that shit because it's a Frankensteined LP.

 

[bono_212]

Wow, I just noticed how many lyrics "Not That Funny" and "I Know I'm Not Wrong" share. They already sound a lot alike too. Interesting.

 

[lazarus]

Back to what ElMel said about Tusk, while I'm not the biggest C. McVie supporter, I do believe that Think About Me and Brown Eyes are both fantastic, and a couple other ones by her on the album are above average.

She never should have opened and closed the album though, an unnecessary concession/consolation to her made by Buckingham.

 

[LemonMelon]

Wow, I just noticed how many lyrics "Not That Funny" and "I Know I'm Not Wrong" share. They already sound a lot alike too. Interesting.

Brian de Palma released a documentary about the Tusk recording sessions back in 1983 that gives insight into Buckingham's lyricism.

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Back to what ElMel said about Tusk, while I'm not the biggest C. McVie supporter, I do believe that Think About Me and Brown Eyes are both fantastic, and a couple other ones by her on the album are above average.

She never should have opened and closed the album though, an unnecessary concession/consolation to her made by Buckingham.

No, I realize a couple of her tracks are worthwhile, just like I consider a couple of Lindsey and Stevie songs to be a notch below par. But man oh man are the McVie tracks lukewarm compared to the emotions Stevie was pouring out and the visceral intensity of the Lindsey tracks. And I generally love the Christine songs. Songbird and You Make Loving Fun are excellent contributions to Rumours.

 

[bono_212]

She never should have opened and closed the album though, an unnecessary concession/consolation to her made by Buckingham.

It's pretty much this exactly. I like her contributions, but they're so misplaced. The abrupt change into The Ledge and after Tusk are completely awful.


(Yeah, in retrospect, I have no idea what I was talking about when I said Tusk was cohesive)

 

[cobl04]

hey Friggin Cobbler, make sure you see the Walkmen when you go to that festival. You wont regret it
The Walkmen - The Rat (Live from Juan's Basement) ‏ - YouTube

The Walkmen - In the New Year ‏ - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn6kgnshjvo&feature=related

Get your hands on the albums Bows & Arrows, You & Me, and Lisbon before you see them

Will do

I too was a little concerned with Cobblerto's apparent complete disinterest in some of the other artists. There's at least one on there arguably bigger than both Flaming Lips and The National.

I listed them, but The Flaming Lips and The National are the only bands on the lineup that I know music by. I absolutely plan on checking out the others before the festival.

. Although I personally would not say that, I am extremely weary of people, e.g. Rolling Stone, who claim that they made ten or so of the twenty best albums ever.

I agree with this. I wouldn't call them overrated either, their influence alone defies that claim objectively, whether you subjectively believe they're overrated or not. But they're not in my top echelon of favourite artists. I've got no interest in their early albums, and I was supremely disappointed when I heard Sgt Peppers for the first time because I was expecting to be blown away by aural gold.

And for the record, Lovely Rita and Good Morning are two of the best tracks on the album.

I totally remember Ashanti. She was adorable, and I liked one or two of her songs.

Always on time!

 

[lazarus]

And for the record, Lovely Rita and Good Morning are two of the best tracks on the album.

This...is why you fail.

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Cobbler Friggin'.

 

[cobl04]

Of course you don't like it, it's a McCartney song...

 

[bono_212]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! My dog just ate the inner sleeve to John Mellencamp's 1980 release!!!!

 

[powerhour24]

It feels unreal that 360 is going to be over in a week. I can't help but wonder what would have happened without the 2010 delay.

 

[lazarus]

Of course you don't like it, it's a McCartney song...

You mentioned two songs. One is Macca, the other John.

And they're by far the two weakest tracks on the album.

 

[cobl04]

I'm very, very surprised that you say that about Lovely Rita when When You're 64 is right next to it.

Not a bad song on the album for me.

 

[lazarus]

When I'm 64 is another one of Macca's granny songs (the music is nearly interchangeable with Honey Pie, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, etc.), but it's got a very clever lyric.

Lovely Rita isn't a bad song, it's just alright when compared to brilliance like Lucy, Day in the Life, Fixing A Hole, Getting Better, etc., or ear candy like Mr. Kite and Within You Without You.

 

[cobl04]

When I'm 64 is another one of Macca's granny songs (the music is nearly interchangeable with Honey Pie, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, etc.), but it's got a very clever lyric.

Lovely Rita isn't a bad song, it's just alright when compared to brilliance like Lucy, Day in the Life, Fixing A Hole, Getting Better, etc., or ear candy like Mr. Kite and Within You Without You.

What's clever about it, if you'd care to explain? I like it, just wondering. I think Rita has better music.

Absolutely agreed with your second point, though ever since I heard the Love version of Benefit, with Helter Skelter and She's So Heavy, I can't listen to the original, it just pales in comparison.

 

[Reggo]

Within You Without You is possibly the best song George Harrison ever wrote. The instrumental version on the anthology is, for lack of a less pretentious word, transcendent.

 

[cobl04]

George is my favourite, but that track's pretty low down on my list.

 

[bono_212]

I don't know if there's a single George song I like.


Man, I'm batting 1.000 in here lately.


EDIT: Except "Here Comes The Sun" of course, that song is untouchable.

 

[cobl04]

You don't like Something?

By the way, there were some horrific grammar errors these past few pages.

 

[bono_212]

Travis just said the same thing to me when he read my post . I forget about "Something". No, I don't love it, but I do enjoy it, yeah.

 

[powerhour24]

You don't like George? He's always been my favorite, such a spiritual, soulful musician.

While My Guitar Gently Weeps doesn't get to you??

 

[bono_212]

I hate that song, no joke. I'm sorry for being the way I am.

 

[powerhour24]

No need to apologize for your own opinion, I've just never heard someone say they disliked that song, let alone outright hated it.

 

[powerhour24]

I've been up since, 8. Time to clock out.

 

[LemonMelon]

By the way, there were some horrific grammar errors these past few pages.

There are some horrific opinion errors in this house.

Good Morning Good Morning does blow, and I don't know how something so egregious and mailed-in managed to make it onto a classic like Sgt. Pepper. McCartney's killer guitar solo is one of the only things that saves it. Lennon in general was just not on his A-game during that period though; Beatles lore states that Lennon just didn't give a shit at the time, and wrote GMGM while watching daytime television in his PJs in like 5 minutes.

 

[Reggo]

There are some horrific opinion errors in this house.

Good Morning Good Morning does blow, and I don't know how something so egregious and mailed-in managed to make it onto a classic like Sgt. Pepper. McCartney's killer guitar solo is one of the only things that saves it. Lennon in general was just not on his A-game during that period though; Beatles lore states that Lennon just didn't give a shit at the time, and wrote GMGM while watching daytime television in his PJs in like 5 minutes.

And it's a song about not giving a shit and blowing off work and being bored with life. I like GMGM. The only song I don't particularly care for on Sgt. Pepper is Fixing A Hole, but I'm not sure why I don't.

 

[iron yuppie]

I really cannot agree that "When I'm Sixty-Four" is a clever lyric. To me, there is a lot of frivolity masquerading as significance on Pepper. I can't see "Fixing a Hole" as anything other than a song about household chores, and "Lovey Rita" appears to be about a parking constable. And I needn't even mention "Good Morning" on account of what LM has already said.

I think that "Day in the Life" completely saves the album. It is so lyrically and musically profound that it retroactively makes the entire thing seem like a statement of cosmic importance.

 

[LemonMelon]

And it's a song about not giving a shit and blowing off work and being bored with life. I like GMGM. The only song I don't particularly care for on Sgt. Pepper is Fixing A Hole, but I'm not sure why I don't.

Now we really have to fight. Fixing A Hole is one of the trippier moments of Pepper, and I love the lyrics and George's ascending guitar line. I feel like the song kind of kills the kaleidoscopic momentum of the record, but that's sort of the point. It's a song about taking time to slow down, so yeah.

 

[cobl04]

He conceded that was about drugs didn't he?