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MrBrau1 12-12-2003 12:26 PM

WWII Based Video Games
I've seen commercials for video games called "Medal Of Honor" and "Rising Sun". They basically are games where you're a soldier or sailor in WWII. Am I the only person offended by this. It's one thing when it's fantasy, but to base it on actual events kinda trivializes what REAL people did. If my grandfathers ever saw these "games" I think they'd destroy the TV. What's next, a "Vietnam Game" or a "Battle Of Little Big Horn" game? Fucking Sick.

DaveC 12-12-2003 12:38 PM

They've got Vietnam games, and lots of Civil War and American Revolution games.

I don't think they're particularly bad... I play Medal of Honor and Day of Defeat (at least I did till my brother got my IP banned for cheating :mad: ). I think it brings this period of history to a generation that may not otherwise look into it. People will want to know more about what they are playing and will go research it and develop a greater respect into what actually occurred. I know I did.

I don't think people are particularly offended by them...I know my grandfather isn't, hell he played Day of Defeat against/with me a lot until he passed away (and he always kicked my ass). He served in D-Day and in France and Holland during WWII with the PPCLI. It brought us closer together and helped him come to terms with it and also he told us some stories due to the games that he probably wouldn't have told us otherwise.

MrBrau1 12-12-2003 12:47 PM

Maybe they could have a game based on murderers. You could choose to kill people in the style of Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, or John Wayne Gasey. Or how about a game where you're the pilot of the Enola Gay, and you've gotta drop the A-bomb on Hiroshima w/o getting shot down. I think it's wrong, especially since most of the kids playing these games think we fought Russia in WWII.

yertle-the-turtle 12-12-2003 12:58 PM

quite recently (a week ago, in fact), I decided to play Age Of Empires 2. now I haven't played any games other than a cheap looking soccer game for ages, but I had a go at it anyway. AOE2 is based on historical figures like Joan of Arc and Ghenghis Khan, and is one of those 'gather resources, fight battle' type of games. when i was younger i'd play these games without too much hesitation - it was just a game after all, but now, i had this really odd feeling that what i was doing was not right somehow. i didn't feel right leading Saladin's army to fight the Crusades somehow. i didn't feel right liberating Scotland with Sir William Wallace. it's difficult to explain. i've since returned the game.

MrBrau1 12-12-2003 01:01 PM

Tell me i'm wrong please...but I'm sure some company has and Iraq War game out now. So you can play soldier, while real people are dying, it's almost like real time.

yertle-the-turtle 12-12-2003 01:05 PM

you're wrong...i am quite disturbed by the fact it may be a reality in six or seven years though. games about the first gulf war have been quite a staple for game designers and companies throughout the 90s.

nbcrusader 12-12-2003 01:11 PM

Re: WWII Based Video Games

Originally posted by MrBrau1
What's next, a "Vietnam Game" ?
Actually, that is the subject of the next wave of video games. WWII shooters have multiple titles. Next year, some of the more successful titles will introduce new games with a Vietnam setting.

And yes, the current Iraqi conflict is appearing in some titles (usually just flight sims for now).

I've played a few of the games, and like yertle mentions, I enjoy the historical aspect of some of these games. My son gained a interest in history by watching me play AOE2.

MrBrau1 12-12-2003 01:19 PM

I'm sure these games are very popular at the local VFW.

DaveC 12-12-2003 02:55 PM


Originally posted by MrBrau1
Tell me i'm wrong please...but I'm sure some company has and Iraq War game out now. So you can play soldier, while real people are dying, it's almost like real time.
There is an Iraq War game out. I think it's called Return to Baghdad or something...I played it for about 5 minutes in the local Electronics Boutique, and it was a terrible game anyways so I left it alone.

I still say these types of games can be beneficial. Sure there are some negative aspects, but there's negative aspects with just about anything. I think that used by the right person the good can far outweigh the bad in these games.

Justified 12-12-2003 03:02 PM

i thought i was the only one offended by the commericals for the WWII games. that pearl harbor one for some reason really bothers me. :|

DaveC 12-12-2003 03:06 PM

Pearl Harbor one?? Which is that?

Justified 12-12-2003 03:08 PM

i think it is the medal of honor one.

Headache in a Suitcase 12-12-2003 04:46 PM

what is the difference between a video game based on an actuall event and a movie based upon an actuall event? i think you're way off base here... i own "medal of honor: frontline" for ps2 in which the opening scene reinacts the invasion of normandy. what is so wrong about a video game reinacting a famous battle, when movies such as saving private ryan, which was a ficticious story (private ryan never existed... it was loosely based on another family that did serve in ww2). people reinact famous battles of the civil war all the time. there's no complaints about that.

this is a scene from medal of honor: frontline...

this is a scene from saving private ryan...

not much of a difference now is there? there's a good reason why, too... who created the Medal of Honor video game series? The same guy who created Saving Private Ryan... Steven Spielberg.

kennerado 12-12-2003 08:18 PM

A new game called Call Of Duty is awesome. You play missions from US, Russian and British perspectives.

DaveC 12-13-2003 11:27 AM

Medal of Honor (at least the original for Playstation nor the Allied Assault version) have anything to do with Pearl Harbor, and I'm pretty sure none of the others do either.

I was hoping someone would make the film comparison. Thanks Headache.

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