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One Tree Still 12-09-2002 01:12 PM

Pearl Jam and U2
I went to the Pearl Jam show last night and I gotta say - they pretty much smoke U2 as musicians.

I still like U2 far better, because I like what they stand for and prefer their music, but Pearl Jam is a kick ass band.

I was sitting in the Sonics' owner's suite (free ticket through sweet connections!) which was directly behind the stage and up about 20 feet - so we could see the band very clearly and watch all the backstage stuff (guitar techs and sound people, etc.). It was really cool.

And Matt Cameron is a killer drummer!

JOFO 12-09-2002 01:42 PM

what was the setlist?

One Tree Still 12-09-2002 02:22 PM

It was interesting - they started off slow (this is from memory)

1. Elderly Woman...
2. Black
3. Finding My Way (?) (from the new album)

then they kicked in up a notch

4. Given to Fly
5. Even Flow

Then a buch of stuff from the new album, then some of the old regulars

Notables that they didn't play were: Alive, Jeremy, Rearviewmirror, Go, Dissident, In My Tree, In Hiding.

Good show - pretty mellow crowd though. All reserved seating so no mosh pit.

typhoon 12-09-2002 02:28 PM

From TSIS...


soundcheck: Black, Insignificance, Love Boat Captain, You Are, Even Flow, Light Years, I Got Shit, Blood, Save You x2
setlist: Elderly Woman, Black, Thumbing My Way, Nothing As It Seems, Given To Fly, Save You, Hail Hail, Ghost, Corduroy, Grievance, Green Disease, I Am Mine, Love Boat Captain, You Are, 1/2 Full, Even Flow, Wishlist, Blood
encore: Gimme Some Truth (John Lennon), Bu$hleaguer, Insignificance, Down, Better Man, Do The Evolution
encore 2: Yellow Ledbetter

- Ed comes out on stage and tries to get the crowd to sing "Hey, You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" for the anniversary of John Lennon's death.
- After Wishlist, Ed talks a little about Bush and how none of the charity money will support the war. And "fuck Rolling Stone".
- Mike majorly smashes up his guitar after Blood.
- Lyrical change in Do The Evolution: "admire me, admire my clone, admire my son, admire the Ramones" (Ed wore a Ramones shirt as well).

One Tree Still 12-09-2002 02:42 PM

My memory sucks! And it was only last night! :-)

Elvis Presley 12-09-2002 03:11 PM

funny, I was just reading in Flanigans book last night about when Pearl Jam was opening for U2.

It had some good insights to what the two thought of each other and I think at that point at least they respected each other. And each other differences,
both are great musicians............:|

Hewson 12-09-2002 03:14 PM


Originally posted by One Tree Still

Good show - pretty mellow crowd though. All reserved seating so no mosh pit.

After Roskilde, you'll never see a moshpit or GA area at a Pearl Jam show again. Their security is pretty adament nowadays about people remaining where they belong.

STING2 12-09-2002 03:42 PM

I have seen Pearl Jam several times before and no, they do not smoke U2 as musicians, but they are great.

anitram 12-09-2002 06:18 PM


Originally posted by STING2
I have seen Pearl Jam several times before and no, they do not smoke U2 as musicians, but they are great.
I've seen them as well, and I agree.

They're a great live band, their diehards have a wonderful time, but given a choice between them and U2 - it's not a difficult decision for me to make.

superape 12-09-2002 08:59 PM

This reminds me. Back in the summer of 93 (or was it 94?) Cameron Crowe did a cover story on PJ for Rollingstone. The fact that PJ is opening for U2 in Europe was an interesting part this story. They mentioned that at a show Italy, Bono and Vedder did a song together. I don't recall if it was Bono with PJ or Vedder with U2. Anyway I always figureed I'd see this in bootleg eventually, but now many years later I've never even seen it listed.

Anyone out there know the scoop?

Mrs. Vedder 12-10-2002 04:10 PM

I was at the PJ concert! :hyper:

I :heart: PEARL JAM

I :heart: U2


But I honestly liked this PJ concert better than any of the Elevation ones I went too! :ohmy: *runs* Sorry.

And I love RIOT ACT much more than ATYCLB!! :D

I just love both bands.. and that's all that there's to it!

STING2 12-10-2002 04:26 PM


I don't think that actually happened. To the best of my knowledge they have never done anything live together. I did not see anything in Pimms U2: Live A Concert Documentary , about it. That book has every U2 concert in it.

superape 12-10-2002 06:20 PM


Yeah, I guess you're right. I found the article online and did not find what I recalled. :(

Twas a great article to re-read, however. Pretty fun to read Zooropa tour memories from the opening band's POV.

This is my fav part:

"F--k you," yells a chorus of fans near the front. There is little poetry in the Italian crowd. Forty thousand fill this Roman soccer stadium today, but there isn't much they're interested in seeing outside of the group on the ticket -- U2.

"F--k me?" repeats Vedder, out on the lip of the stage. "Tell you what -- you f--k me, and Bono will f--k you!"


This bit is great too, in hindsight:

Vedder, Liebling and Ament will stay up all night with Bono and the Edge, talking passionately in a diner, debating the issue of the day, the emotional exchange rate on success. And at 6am, there are Vedder and Ament exchanging hugs with Bono on an empty Roman street, arriving at the bus just in time for the trip to Dublin.
"I got all my questions answered," Ament confides. In the course of the dates with U2, he had discussed the hugeness vs. purity issue with all four members of that band. "And they basically told us this: 'We used to be like you. We used to be anti-anti... We used to be angry. But we love technology, like you love what you love. Next tour we might only play 3,000-seat halls. But this is where we are today. Ten years from now, you tell us where you are.'"

October 28, 1993


The whole Cameron Crowe article:


STING2 12-10-2002 11:27 PM

Yep, I still have that issue of Rolling Stone. Very interesting.

Hewson 12-11-2002 08:13 PM

I still have that issue of RS as well. In fact I got Eddie to autograph the cover back in 98.

I thinkthat's about the last positive thing about him to appear in that magazine.

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