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lazyboy 04-28-2002 02:38 PM

For all those spanners who reckon U2 are sellouts...
 
I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I was reading the Sunday World today and I came across an interview with Bono. He mentioned that the band had been offered $23 million, yep, TWENTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS!from a car compnay that wanted to use Where The Streets Have No Namein one of its ads. Bono commented on how much the band dwelled on it, seeing as they coulda helped so many charities with all that money. But in the end they decided that the song meant so much to them and their fans that it was invaluable, and that using it in a commercial would ruin it. He also commented that if other similiar offers came in for other songs then the band would definitely consider them.

Now I never agreed with the idiots who freaked at U2 "selling out" with Elevation, cos it was on the bloody soundtrack! To me it was the same as UTEOTW being used in the Wim Wenders film of the same name. But this clearly shows how much U2 care about the reputation and image of their songs. If anything, I'd criticise them for NOT selling out, $23million!!! http://forum.interference.com/u2feedback/eek.gif I mean, as they said, they coulda put that money to good use!! But it's U2, they've done so much for charity that these actions in defense of one of their classics should be overlooked.

[This message has been edited by lazyboy (edited 04-28-2002).]

Mrs.Clayton 04-28-2002 02:42 PM

WOW!!!
Good for them!

elevatedmole 04-28-2002 02:46 PM

Wow.. I am so glad they didn't cave in and let them use it.

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cass 04-28-2002 04:26 PM

I can picture it.... unfortunately. No wonder the car people went after that song.
**cass kisses Bono, Edge, Larry Adam, Paul,Ali, Aunty Jean, the roadies, absolutely everyone who helped them make that particular decision**

I can hear "Your Blue Room" being used by Dulux Paints. oh no!!!

"spanners"?...101? j/k

V Nura 04-28-2002 07:40 PM

Well BD was used in coke ads, and Bad, and UTEOW were used in NFL ads


I'm not against u2 music in commericals...the music scene is different now. Commerciclas are part of it. Everyone thinks that if you are talented and you want to make money...that's selling out

Selling out is making music to cater to suits...not sellign it to suits.

elevatedmole 04-28-2002 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arun V:
Well BD was used in coke ads, and Bad, and UTEOW were used in NFL ads


I'm not against u2 music in commericals...the music scene is different now. Commerciclas are part of it. Everyone thinks that if you are talented and you want to make money...that's selling out

Selling out is making music to cater to suits...not sellign it to suits.

That's true, Arun. If you want to make music to get money to spend on beer, girls, and all the excess you can handle.. that is selling out. If you want to make music for the sake of music and maybe get some money along the way to spend it on the family who you love, your friends who you love, and donate some to charity.. that's not selling out, IMO.

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"You must not look down on someone just 'cos they are 14 years old. When I was that age I listened to the music of John Lennon and it changed my way of seeing things, so I'm just glad that 14 year olds are coming to see U2 rather than group X." - Bono, 1988

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typhoon 04-28-2002 09:04 PM

We all know they like attention more than money anyway. http://forum.interference.com/u2feedback/smile.gif

Basstrap 04-28-2002 09:15 PM

glad to see your are thrilled at the prospect of millions of people missing out on the benefits of 23 million.

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Zoomerang96 04-28-2002 09:36 PM

oh shut up basstrap. selling out is just wrong. for u2 this shouldnt even be something to consider.

they have enough money themselves, and im sure they donate plenty of it away anyway.

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Spyplane 04-28-2002 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arun V:
Well BD was used in coke ads, and Bad, and UTEOW were used in NFL ads



Thats not the same thing, I mean the NFL used them only because they played the SB so U2 music was like a theme.

And I never saw them using BD for Coke ads, you sure about that? I remember them refusing to let EBTTRT go out for a coke ad a couple of years back.


SkeeK 04-28-2002 11:17 PM

I don't see the problem of them selling their music to a commercial if they give the money to a charity... that's really awesome. I wou;dn't want them all over all sorts of commercials selling their *image* over their music.. if they weren't popular and the companies were actually paying for the specific music rather than the specific huely popular band I wouldn't mind though.


Oh well, looks like me and basstrap are a minority.

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Guy With The Stuff 04-28-2002 11:44 PM

I don't personally see a problem with it either. It's their art. They don't have to feel ashamed about using it to help people.

Just a side question though, which car was it to advertise?

kariatari 04-29-2002 03:04 AM

Me too! But I'm also glad to hear that the money that they would have made off it it (or any other song used in a commecial) would have been given to charities. http://forum.interference.com/u2feedback/smile.gif

MBH 04-29-2002 07:51 PM

This is good news and I think that U2 is doing the right thing. Yes the $ could help people, but U2 could help many people by donating money and time w/out shilling for big corporations.

While on the subject: why didn't Moby receive much flack for selling out all of his songs to commercials?(dont get me wrong, I like Moby).

Also, I heard Kid Rock say recently that he is called a sellout for taking $ from Coors to sponsor his current tour, but Kid Rock said that by him taking the $, it keeps ticket prices down. What does everyone here think?

V Nura 04-29-2002 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spyplane:
Thats not the same thing, I mean the NFL used them only because they played the SB so U2 music was like a theme.

And I never saw them using BD for Coke ads, you sure about that? I remember them refusing to let EBTTRT go out for a coke ad a couple of years back.



Uhh..so the nfl..took u2's music..and used it for promo purposes ..it's not the same becaaaaaauuuuseeee??? u2 s=could have just said...no you can't use it in the ads we'll play halftime and that's it. BD was used in coke ads....just because you haven't seen it...doesn't mean it doesn't exists

cheers,

Arun


MBH 04-29-2002 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arun V:

Uhh..so the nfl..took u2's music..and used it for promo purposes ..it's not the same becaaaaaauuuuseeee??? u2 s=could have just said...no you can't use it in the ads we'll play halftime and that's it. BD was used in coke ads....just because you haven't seen it...doesn't mean it doesn't exists

cheers,

Arun


Where was BD used in a coke ad? What country and what ad? Just curious.

The difference between U2's music being used by the NFL for the SBowl and U2's music being used to sell a product is significant:

U2 DID NOT GET PAID BY THE NFL for the use of their music AND U2 were promoting/selling themselves for the SB, not a product. Big Difference

elevatedmole 04-29-2002 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MBH:
[B]While on the subject: why didn't Moby receive much flack for selling out all of his songs to commercials?(dont get me wrong, I like Moby).
B]
Moby DID receive flak for letting companies use his songs in commercials. Moby has addressed this issue in his weblog on moby.com -- I believe he said he didn't care, he liked his music, and if companies wanted to use it because they liked it, fine -- it was okay by him.

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"You must not look down on someone just 'cos they are 14 years old. When I was that age I listened to the music of John Lennon and it changed my way of seeing things, so I'm just glad that 14 year olds are coming to see U2 rather than group X." - Bono, 1988

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lazyboy 04-29-2002 08:31 PM

The reason U2 gave for not allowing Streets to be used was because it is a cornerstone of each gig, Bono said "it's like when we have a bad night, that song is where God usually shows up". For this reason he felt that it would be degrading to the song, and the attention it would get due to the ad would take away its effect in the show. I dunno but they seemed like they could be persuaded on some other less notable songs.

They didn't say which car company it was, to whoever asked that.

And Arun, from this side of the pond I dunno bout the cases you mentioned, but I would also say the NFL thing ain't selling out, they also let a soccer highlights show here use BD as the theme tune. And have you seen the coke ad you refer to? Cos I think I heard a similar story to this one about that.

And I personally wouldn't really be bothered if U2 "sold" some of their songs to advertising, I mean it would be nice to take some big notes from some corporation and give them to charity. And like someone already pointed out, Moby practically used selling all his songs to ads to promote his own album, not a bad idea! But with Streets, and many others, I think they should be left alone.

Michael Griffiths 04-29-2002 10:14 PM

I seem to remember that 'Beatiful Day' was actually used for a charity affiliated with the Olyimpics. Coke just happened to be the other sponser, and the two entities -- 'Beautiful Day' and a small add for Coke -- appeared simulteously. That's all. It wasn't U2 doing an add for Coke at all.

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Saracene 04-29-2002 10:41 PM

I agree that some songs should be left alone, but it wouldn't bother me if U2 gave one of their less "serious" songs to be used in the ads... now what were these un-serious songs anyway? http://forum.interference.com/u2feedback/smile.gif


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