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Diemen 02-09-2017 12:14 PM

Trump General Discussion VII
 
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bloodysunday972 02-09-2017 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Diemen (Post 8142969)
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http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20131202235133

Like I was saying. You may not agree with him but this is the kind of debate we need on Capitol Hill. Very level headed.

https://youtu.be/NzIq2yv4O4c

Babydoll 02-09-2017 12:33 PM

I don't have enough time to go through each and every single quote you cited, no doubt from a right wing site, as the quotes were taken grossly out of context and were blatant exaggerations, but I'll attempt to contextualize one that stood out:

You mentioned one about Mohammed saying 'oh kill all the prisoners of war you can find, behead every single one of those m******f******!!!' (Not really, but that's what the translation roughly said... and Sean Hannity :D )

Now, that was not in fact a Quranic quote, I believe, but a Hadith. It was part of Mohammed's last sermon, which he delivered before his death. It was:

'O men (mankind in general, not precisely men) you still have in your possession some prisoners of war. I advise you, therefore, to feed them and to clothe them in the same way and style as you feed and clothe yourselves. If they do anything wrong which you are unable to forgive, then pass them on to someone else. They are part of God’s creation. To give them pain or cause them suffering can never be right. O men, what I say to you, you must hear and remember. All Muslims are as brethren to one another. All of you are equal. All men, whatever nation or tribe they may belong to, and whatever
station in life they may hold are equal. (Raising his hands, and joining the fingers of the one hand with those of the other, he added). Even as the fingers of the two hands are equal, so are human beings equal to one another. No one has any right, any superiority to claim over another. You are as brothers. O men, your God is One and your ancestor is one. An Arab possesses no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab over an Arab. A white man is in no way superior to a black nor for that matter, neither is a black man better than a white, but only to the extent to which he discharges his duty to God and man. The most honoured among you in the sight of God is the most righteous among you . . . .Even as this month is sacred, this land inviolate, and this day holy, so has God made the lives, property and honour.'

As someone mentioned, what I think and believe of the texts and Hadiths is my opinion, and rightfully so, I agree. However, we cannot account for imbeciles who take texts talking about being good and forgiving and etc, (the same stuff that all religions preach) and taking it to mean something different entirely.

This was also over 1438 years ago. And Arabic can't be directly translated into English, without losing its context.

Same goes for the '72 virgins' bs. There's not a single sentence in the Quran which mentions 72 virgins, or any virgin at all waiting for anyone. Arabic, like many Indo-European languages, including western languages such as German, has grammatical genders. English does not. Therefore, the sentence has been lost in translation since time immemorial, with people thinking that the Holy Quran has some ridiculous promises included therein.

If it did in fact contain, trust me you'd have far many more people being extremists running around, don't you think?

Oregoropa 02-09-2017 12:34 PM

This is a great moment of levity too from Lil' Marco.

https://youtu.be/kepdzLUNE64

3 weeks into his term we are on Trump VII surpassing Obama V 8 years on.

Interesting food for thought


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BVS 02-09-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa (Post 8142975)
This is a great moment of levity too from Lil' Marco.

https://youtu.be/kepdzLUNE64

3 weeks into his term we are on Trump VII surpassing Obama V 8 years on.

Interesting food for thought


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One was a good president without much controversy, and the other lies on twitter 3 times before 8am.

Seems like a no-brainer, not much food, not much thought.

Babydoll 02-09-2017 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oregoropa (Post 8142975)
This is a great moment of levity too from Lil' Marco.

https://youtu.be/kepdzLUNE64

3 weeks into his term we are on Trump VII surpassing Obama V 8 years on.

Interesting food for thought


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That's not a good thing, though. He constantly shocks and disappoints, hence more dialogue is needed between his supporters who think all this is ok and the rest of us who do not.

Diemen 02-09-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodysunday972 (Post 8142970)
You may not agree with him but this is the kind of debate we need on Capitol Hill. Very level headed.

https://youtu.be/NzIq2yv4O4c

Wouldn't it be great if our President was capable of level headed debate?

Instead we get a man-child who lashes out at anything and everything that doesn't immediately bow to his whim:


Oregoropa 02-09-2017 01:57 PM

If Trump drops the Corporate Tax to 15-20% among other Pro-Growth policies he could tweet 'The Hokey-Pokey' every morning until he wins reelection.


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BVS 02-09-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa (Post 8142987)
If Trump drops the Corporate Tax to 15-20% among other Pro-Growth policies he could tweet 'The Hokey-Pokey' every morning until he wins reelection.


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Google translation: I've sold my soul and removed any bar set for the highest seat in this country for some pipedream.

bono_212 02-09-2017 02:18 PM

Greed, for lack of a better word, is good.

corianderstem 02-09-2017 02:42 PM

The official response to this Nordstrom thing is completely fucking ridiculous. What an embarrassment.

Diemen 02-09-2017 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregoropa (Post 8142987)
he could tweet 'The Hokey-Pokey' every morning until he wins reelection.

That would certainly be a significant increase in intelligence and thoughtfulness over what he currently tweets.

Moonlit_Angel 02-09-2017 02:50 PM

Trump's people kept him off Twitter in the days leading up to the election, right? Why can't they do it again now? Preferably for good?

corianderstem 02-09-2017 02:51 PM


Diemen 02-09-2017 03:01 PM

Ethics? When were Trump supporters ever concerned with ethics?
#lockherup #crookedhillary #privateserver #clintonfoundation


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