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financeguy 07-02-2011 03:19 PM

4th of July quiz
Intercollegiate Studies Institute - Educating for Liberty

My score: 90.91%

No cheating!

Canadiens1131 07-02-2011 03:31 PM

Got bored on 3rd page :(

financeguy 07-02-2011 03:48 PM

I reckon you stopped because you feared you would not beat my score.

Canadiens1131 07-02-2011 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by financeguy (Post 7266627)
I reckon you stopped because you feared you would not beat my score.

This is also true :up:

PhilsFan 07-02-2011 03:56 PM

A rushed 87.88%.

mobvok 07-02-2011 05:10 PM


The Public Goods question threw me. Apparently "directly" is doing a lot of work in the correct answer.

anitram 07-02-2011 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by financeguy (Post 7266599)
My score: 90.91%

No cheating!

31/33 - 93.94%

A bit of an unfair advantage as this seems like a test pretty much tailor-made for anyone who has taken basic US constitutional law. I probably would have gotten a good 3-4 more questions wrong since I didn't have a US education. Then again maybe it helps that I didn't. ;)

financeguy 07-02-2011 05:33 PM

I'm amazed I scored so high. I have never made a particular study of the subject. The US constitution is not studied in Irish secondary schools and the small amount of law I studied at college, many years ago, dealt with US constitutional law only in passing. I can only assume I absorbed a lot of knowledge by a process of osmosis from reading all those FYM threads.

Canadiens1131 07-02-2011 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by financeguy (Post 7266704)
I can only assume I absorbed a lot of knowledge by a process of osmosis from reading all those FYM threads.

God help you :D

yolland 07-02-2011 06:06 PM


If you click on that score table it mentions this,

Among the 2,508 respondents, 164 say they have been elected to a government office at least once. This sub-sample of officeholders yields a startling result: elected officials score lower than the general public. Those who have held elective office earn an average score of 44% on the civic literacy test, which is five percentage points lower than the average score of 49% for those who have never been elected. It would be most interesting to explore whether this statistically significant result is maintained across larger samples of elected officials.

...In each of the following areas, for example, officeholders do more poorly than non-officeholders:

•Seventy-nine percent of those who have been elected to government office do not know the Bill of Rights expressly prohibits establishing an official religion for the U.S.
•Thirty percent do not know that “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” are the inalienable rights referred to in the Declaration of Independence.
•Twenty-seven percent cannot name even one right or freedom guaranteed by the First Amendment.
•Forty-three percent do not know what the Electoral College does. One in five thinks it either “trains those aspiring for higher political office” or “was established to supervise the first televised presidential debates.”
•Fifty-four percent do not know the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. Thirty-nine percent think that power belongs to the president, and 10% think it belongs to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
•Only 32% can properly define the free enterprise system, and only 41% can identify business profit as “revenue minus expenses.”

Popmartijn 07-02-2011 06:37 PM

You answered 29 out of 33 correctly — 87.88 %

Not bad. :)

kramwest1 07-02-2011 06:48 PM


I didn't like the way two of the economic questions were worded and I flipped a coin between two of the Socrates and Plato answers.


deep 07-02-2011 07:38 PM



You answered 31 out of 33 correctly — 93.94 %

If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email americancivicliteracy@isi.org.

You can consult the following table to see how citizens and elected officials scored on each question.

(my dog was barking at me because it was walk time, that's my excuse for missing two)

I could say something snippy, like
the better informed posters, tend to give the better responses

BonosSaint 07-02-2011 08:17 PM

84 and change. I suck in this company. However, I am almost twice as knowledgeable as the people who make the decisions for me.:up::huh:

maycocksean 07-02-2011 08:26 PM

31/33. 93.94%

The questions that got me were about government taxes equaling government spending and the one about the fiscal policy the U.S. government has followed during a recession.

I'm surprised that the average score was so low. Most of the questions were not that difficult.

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