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Thora 02-26-2010 11:20 PM

Sweet! :up:

Can't wait to see those races in a bit. :D

VintagePunk 02-26-2010 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by anitram (Post 6678028)


Go us!

Schmeg 02-26-2010 11:23 PM


Originally posted by [b]Irvine511[b]
in your opinion, do you think he is judged more harshly than the other skaters (by the judges themselves)? to the naked, uneducated eye, his performances seemed to be not as rewarded as they should be, and it seemed like the NBC commentators agreed. and i can understand how, in the need to not seem frightening to boys, they want to make figure skating less ... flaming than Johnny. there's a whole complex thing going on that i could discuss but it's too much for here. but curious as to what you think.

also, hail Queen Yu-Na. time for her to start counting the gajillions she's going to make.

so happy for Joannie.

and Mirai is absolutely adorable. the future.
I had to think very, very carefully about what I wanted to say in my post without coming across as sort of a closed-minded bitch. I learned very young that people are people no matter who they love, and that is probably the LAST thing I judge people by. I actually know more gay female skaters than male, and many people are surprised by that.

In my opinion, Johnny got straight-out robbed in the men's final. He stepped out of a sit spin and got all sorts of deductions when guys who finished ahead of him were falling out of jumps.

I agree with him that US Figure Skating doesn't like him. Skating judges are mostly old, crotchety frustrated skaters these days and they sure don't want to see a guy in a pink corset or covered in fox fur and feathers. Depending on the demographic of the judging panel at a given competition, I am quite sure he is judged differently from Evan Lysacek in a blue tux or Jeremy Abbott in the eternal puffy shirt and black pants. He doesn't have the difficulty the other men do, but what he does he does beautifully and he doesn't always get rewarded for it.

I thought today that Kim Yu-Na is [her coach] Brian Orser's reward for losing the Battle of the Brians after coming in second to Scott Hamilton in '84. He deserves a young phenom, winning medals and breaking records like it's easy.

I cannot say enough about Joannie. I'm so glad she held it together. She hasn't always been good at putting two strong programs together and I was coaching her from my couch when it looked like she was falling apart.

Sorry to hijack the new thread with stuff from the old thread. Next time I'll wax poetic about what we grass-roots skaters call "boy points." :wink:

trojanchick99 02-26-2010 11:24 PM

Wow that Short Track relay is crazy. How did no one wipe out in that madness? Yay US for winning Bronze! And of course Yay Canada! That last pass was a thing of beauty.

VintagePunk 02-26-2010 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Schmeg (Post 6678034)
He doesn't have the difficulty the other men do,

I've enjoyed reading your take, thanks. :)

Curious, how much do you think the portion I quoted above has to do with it?

DRay9911 02-26-2010 11:32 PM

uh oh

Thora 02-26-2010 11:34 PM

Now the game has gotten stressful. :bitingfingernails:

anitram 02-26-2010 11:38 PM

I'm probably one of the few people who has never been that impressed with Luongo and frankly he let in a couple of dumb goals on Wednesday that nobody talked about because we won so impressively. I would also not like to comment in detail on our defence (aside from a couple of notable exceptions).

VintagePunk 02-26-2010 11:41 PM


Schmeg 02-26-2010 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by VintagePunk (Post 6678049)
I've enjoyed reading your take, thanks. :)

Curious, how much do you think the portion I quoted above has to do with it?

Well, I think it's like Plushenko and Lysacek. Sure one had a quad, but the other performed his elements better. The only glaring error I remember from Johnny's program is the sit spin and maybe he just did a triple/double combination instead of a triple/triple. Spins don't count nearly as much as jumps so I was really surprised with his scores. I tend to think the ones who stand up more and have footwork and transitions that aren't just fluff should be given the right scores.

But then, it's figure skating, so who ever knows what the judges are looking for anyway?

Thora 02-26-2010 11:44 PM

Oh. my. god. Those last few minutes were insanely stressful. :crack: Gotta give the Slovakian team a lot of credit. They fought like hell.

Can't wait for the gold medal game on Sunday, though! GO CANADA!!! :D

VintagePunk 02-26-2010 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Schmeg (Post 6678094)

But then, it's figure skating, so who ever knows what the judges are looking for anyway?

Very true. As I've mentioned before, my daughter used to skate competitively, and we used to be into watching it a lot, but I have no clue about this new scoring system, I'm lost.

I'm turning off the tv now. That was enough stress for one night. :lol:

Jive Turkey 02-27-2010 12:02 AM

Most gold medals :rockon:

kramwest1 02-27-2010 12:15 AM

U.S.A. on track to beat Germany's all-time single Winter Olympics Medal count. :rockon:

speedracer 02-27-2010 12:20 AM

The betting markets are really crapping on Canada hockey right now -- you can get 1:2 odds on them winning the gold right now, which I think is a very good price.

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