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cobl04 07-11-2009 09:45 PM

Greatest Sportsman of All Time?
 
Just a convo I was having with a mate recently... it's a topic that can be hotly debated, and, realistically, there is probably no real answer, as it's too hard to compare sportsmen across sports. But let's chew the fat anyway, huh?

I suppose the obvious ones are your Babe Ruths, Michael Jordans... Phelps is of course phenomenal, but to be fair I'm pretty sure he's a cyborg, and not actually human. Lance Armstrong.

Don't know enough about soccer, baseball, basketball etc to comment, but let me lay down my claim: Sir Donald Bradman. An Australian cricketer for those who don't know, he simply has to be it. He averaged 99.96, meaning any score less than 99 when he went out to bat was technically a failure. His average is almost 39 higher than the next best. There has been over 200 years of competitive cricket. And of course, he's Australian :D

intedomine 07-11-2009 10:49 PM

Bradman statistically, and I think most Aussies and Poms and Indians would agree with this. Mind you, cricket is not the hardest sport to excel at and not all that physically taxing compared with the majority of other sports.

North Americans will nominate Wayne Gretzky 'cause he apparently had some ridiculous statistical record and dominance in his sport of ice hockey, as obscure that sport is to anyone outside of that continent. I really don't know anything about the sport though.

Some will say Pele, but to me he had nothing on Zidane.

Cycling appears to me the most physically demanding sport of the lot of them, and I am left in awe and admiration of these cyclists who spend 6 hours a day on a bike for 3 weeks straight. Unfathomable endurance and commitment. So Lance Armstrong would be a contender.

Probably a marathon runner or someone, or even an athlete like Usain Bolt, breaking all sorts of records at the most basic of sporting competitions.

What about Greatest Sportswoman of all time? :wink:

cobl04 07-12-2009 12:01 AM

People always use that word when referring to Bradman, 'statistically'. Don't undersell cricket though, it is hard to excel at.

You'd just use that thread to post pictures of Ana Ivanovic... :wink:

intedomine 07-12-2009 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cobl04 (Post 6247961)
People always use that word when referring to Bradman, 'statistically'. Don't undersell cricket though, it is hard to excel at.

You'd just use that thread to post pictures of Ana Ivanovic... :wink:

I've got a new flame now, Sorana Cirstea. :wink:

Nah but seriously, might wanna make it "sportsperson" just so it is inclusive of women and men, cause there are likely to be some sportswomen who have dominated their sport even more than their male counterparts, just they get less coverage.

Not trying to undersell cricket, but certain factors need to taken into consideration.

cobl04 07-12-2009 04:18 AM

She's fantastic... and also not taken by Adam Scott :up:

Yeah, probably should have, just didn't even think after the convo we had, and women's sport just didn't come up.

Looks like this is going to die anyway though :lol:

intedomine 07-12-2009 04:18 AM

Give it time, I think all the yanks are sleeping....

cobl04 07-12-2009 04:25 AM

You into F1s? or V8s? Webber's on pole tonight...

I think it's fair to throw them up to, I mean you have to have serious amounts of balls to do what they do. Not to mention keeping fit. But I'll always wonder, would Schumacher have been the best had he raced in a Minardi? No.

Soft spot for the late, great Peter Brock, too.

intedomine 07-12-2009 04:39 AM

Can't stand the V8's, used to enjoy the F1's until all the rules became unfollowable and the teams kept renaming themselves.

Yeah, the thing going against an F1 driver like Schumacher is that a lot of his success is unquestionably attributable to the fact he was driving a Ferrari as opposed to an Arrows, so it therefore makes his sporting greatness difficult to assess. It's like with jockeys in horse racing.

What about John Coleman? What a champion ful-forward he was. The Bradman of Aussie Rules maybe.

cobl04 07-12-2009 04:44 AM

Why no V8 love? I grew up with it so I'm a bit biased I supposed, but I much prefer it to F1's, now anyway.

Favourite Arrows driver? Damon Hill :up: Surely jockeys couldn't come anywhere near this argument.

It really is a tragedy to the game that he did his knee (career ending injury back then) and then died so young... had he played on injury free I think he'd probably be rated as just about the best we've had. People forget he only played 99 games.

1stepcloser 07-12-2009 11:27 AM

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GirlsAloudFan 07-12-2009 02:06 PM

Michael Jordan.

No question, no doubt, no argument. Any other answer is patently incorrect.

The Sad Punk 07-12-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlsAloudFan (Post 6248575)
Michael Jordan.

No question, no doubt, no argument. Any other answer is patently incorrect.

Bradman is statistically the most successful, but since I don't consider cricket a sport, I'm partial to agreeing with you.

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What about John Coleman? What a champion ful-forward he was. The Bradman of Aussie Rules maybe.
Problem is, never got to see him play. I guess you could say much the same for Bradman, but anyway... out of my modern era I'm still a big Carey and Plugger fan - Cuz too. But I couldn't call any of them the best Aussie Rules player ever, let alone greatest sportsman.

Screwtape2 07-12-2009 02:16 PM

This is an impossible question but I'd put the first woman in the discussion with Martina Navratilova. Great singles and doubles player at the Grand Slam level. :up:

MadForIt 07-12-2009 03:16 PM

Any american sports & golf
DONT count as they are shit sports
Tiger Woods is nothing on King Fed

Bradman is a possibility - amazing record
Zidane?????? Great player but should be remembered for the headbutt. What a way to go out!
Thierry Henry is the man! (If i am being even more biased then Dennis Bergkamp is GOD)
Roger Federer

LMP 07-12-2009 06:49 PM

Apollo Creed.


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