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waynetravis 02-13-2009 07:39 AM

Aged 13: "I thought it would be good to have a baby"
 
Baby-faced boy Alfie Patten is father at 13-years-old | The Sun |News

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Baby-faced Alfie, who is 13 but looks more like eight, became a father four days ago when his girlfriend Chantelle Steadman gave birth to 7lb 3oz Maisie Roxanne.
He told how he and Chantelle, 15, decided against an abortion after discovering she was pregnant.

The shy lad, whose voice has not yet broken, said: “I thought it would be good to have a baby.
“I didn’t think about how we would afford it. I don’t really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10.”

Alfie, who is just 4ft tall, added: “When my mum found out, I thought I was going to get in trouble. We wanted to have the baby but were worried how people would react.

“I didn’t know what it would be like to be a dad. I will be good, though, and care for it.”

Alfie’s dad Dennis told how the lad does not really understand the enormity of his situation — but seemed desperate to be a devoted and responsible father.

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He wanted to be the first to hold Maisie after the hospital birth. He tenderly kisses the baby and gives her a bottle.

And Dennis, 45, said: “He could have shrugged his shoulders and sat at home on his Playstation. But he has been at the hospital every day.”

Maisie was conceived after Chantelle and Alfie — just 12 at the time — had a single night of unprotected sex.

They found out about the baby when Chantelle was 12 weeks pregnant.

But they kept it a secret until six weeks later when Chantelle’s mum Penny, 38, became suspicious about her weight gain and confronted her.
fter that Alfie’s family told only those closest to them for fear he would be “demonised” at school.

Chantelle gave birth to Maisie on Monday night after a five-hour labour at Eastbourne Hospital, East Sussex.

Last night she told The Sun: “I’m tired after the birth. I was nervous after going into labour but otherwise I was quite excited.”

Chantelle told how she discovered she was expecting after going to her GP with “really bad” stomach pains. She said: “Me and Alfie went. The doctor asked me whether we had sex. I said yes and he said I should do a pregnancy test. He did the test and said I was pregnant. I started crying and didn’t know what to do.

“He said I should tell my mum but I was too scared.

“We didn’t think we would need help from our parents. You don’t really think about that when you find out you are pregnant. You just think your parents will kill you.”

But Penny figured out what was going on after buying Chantelle a T-shirt which revealed her swelling tum.

Chantelle admitted she and Alfie — who are both being supported by their parents — would be accused of being grossly irresponsible. She said: “We know we made a mistake but I wouldn’t change it now. We will be good loving parents.

“I have started a church course and I am going to do work experience helping other young mums.

“I’ll be a great mum and Alfie will be a great dad.”

Chantelle and Maisie were released from hospital yesterday. They are living with Penny, Chantelle’s jobless dad Steve, 43, and her five brothers in a rented council house in Eastbourne. The family live on benefits. Alfie, who lives on an estate across town with mum Nicola, 43, spends most of his time at the Steadmans’ house.

He is allowed to stay overnight and even has a school uniform there so he can go straight to his classes in the morning.

Alfie’s dad, who is separated from Nicola, believes the lad is scared deep down.

He said: “Everyone is telling him things and it’s going round in his head. It hasn’t really dawned on him. He hasn’t got a clue of what the baby means and can’t explain how he feels. All he knows is mum and dad will help.

“When you mention money his eyes look away. And she is reliant on her mum and dad. It’s crazy. They have no idea what lies ahead.”

Dennis, who works for a vehicle recovery firm, described Alfie as “a typical 13-year-old boy”.

He said: “He loves computer games, boxing and Manchester United.” Dennis, who has fathered nine kids, told how he was “gobsmacked” when he discovered Alfie was to be a dad, too.

He said: “When I spoke to him he started crying. He said it was the first time he’d had sex, that he didn’t know what he was doing and of the complications that could come.

“I will talk to him again and it will be the birds and the bees talk. Some may say it’s too late but he needs to understand so there is not another baby.”

Chantelle’s mum said: “I told her it was lovely to have the baby but I wish it was in different circumstances. We have five children already so it’s a big financial responsibility. But we are a family and will pull together and get through.

“She’s my daughter. I love her and she will want for nothing.”

Last night Michaela Aston, of the anti-abortion Christian charity LIFE, said: “We commend these teenagers for their courage in bringing their child into the world.

“At the same time this is symptomatic of the over-sexualisation of our youngsters and shows the policy of value-free sex education just isn’t working.”

Today Sussex Police and the local council's children services said they have investigated the case and pledged continued support for the young parents.

Britain’s youngest known father is Sean Stewart. He became a dad at 12 when the girl next door, 15-year-old Emma Webster, gave birth in Sharnbrook, Bedford, in 1998. They split six months later.




Christ :huh:

BVS 02-13-2009 08:41 AM

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“At the same time this is symptomatic of the over-sexualisation of our youngsters and shows the policy of value-free sex education just isn’t working.”
Um, NO!!!

Quote:

He said: “When I spoke to him he started crying. He said it was the first time he’d had sex, that he didn’t know what he was doing and of the complications that could come.

“I will talk to him again and it will be the birds and the bees talk. Some may say it’s too late but he needs to understand so there is not another baby.”
It's the fact that this kid had no sex education to begin with...






*That picture is just disturbing.

DrTeeth 02-13-2009 08:42 AM

Kids having kids :doh:

pgv 02-13-2009 09:10 AM

How much do you want to bet that these kids come from low income backgrounds, have very little sense of worth and future prospects, have had ridiculously poor sex education - which Britain is infamous for?
Oh, looks like I'm right.

I hope the Sun gave them a good wedge of money for this story.

LarryMullen's POPAngel 02-13-2009 10:04 AM

Are you fucking kidding me?

Chief43 02-13-2009 11:37 AM

Stories like these aren't at all suprising nowadays.

Agree about the picture. Quite disturbing.

Galeongirl 02-13-2009 01:41 PM

This is disturbing. That kid DOES look like 8 years old.

Even then, 13 is WAY too young to have a kid.

The fact that they didn't have sex ed is perhaps even more disturbing. :doh:

pgv 02-13-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief43 (Post 5859790)
Stories like these aren't at all suprising nowadays.

:yes: 13 year old girls have babies quite frequently, I think people are more shocked that it's a 13 year old boy being the father - and teenage boys do tend to look younger than girls.

vaz02 02-13-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DrTeeth (Post 5859175)
Kids having kids :doh:

Babies having kids more like.

Im in total shock. Just seen it on the news before

MooMoo! 02-13-2009 01:52 PM

The girl doesnt surprise me...but the boy REALLY does. I heard this on the news, but had no idea how young looking he was.


Im surprised that they managed to concieve at all really...

DreamOutLoud13 02-13-2009 02:46 PM

If I could rule the world, proper sex education would be drilled into kids heads beginning at about 10. It's not too young, because that's the age when many of them start thinking about sex. Condoms would not be something 'dirty' to snicker about, but an everyday tool that kids will understand the use of and have access to. Put them in the friggin cereal boxes.

Avoiding the subject doesn't make it go away, and not telling your kids about sex won't keep them innocent. Educating them will not encourage them to go out and sleep around. Their hormones are already doing that. But education will keep them safe and help them make smart decisions.

I knew all about pregnancy and AIDS and safe sex and birth control by age 11. It didn't turn me into a hussy, but it made me smart. I didn't have sex until I was 19, and since then I haven't had a single pregnancy scare. I've taken every precaution to be safe and healthy, because it's the responsible thing to do, and I knew that from having decent sex education. Thank god for the Clinton years.

JCOSTER 02-13-2009 04:17 PM

Unbelievable....just don't know what else to say.

ShipOfFools 02-13-2009 04:37 PM

Where are the parents? When this kid started saying, "Mom, Dad, I want to have a baby," they should have stepped in and said "Wait until you're old enough, son."

And where are the parents of the 15 year old girl? That isn't any better. They should have stepped in, too.

Wait until these kids want to go away to college, and then realize they can't with all the responsibilities they have, that could have been avoided. That will be a wakeup call if anything is.

Galeongirl 02-13-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamOutLoud13 (Post 5860761)
If I could rule the world, proper sex education would be drilled into kids heads beginning at about 10. It's not too young, because that's the age when many of them start thinking about sex. Condoms would not be something 'dirty' to snicker about, but an everyday tool that kids will understand the use of and have access to. Put them in the friggin cereal boxes.

Avoiding the subject doesn't make it go away, and not telling your kids about sex won't keep them innocent. Educating them will not encourage them to go out and sleep around. Their hormones are already doing that. But education will keep them safe and help them make smart decisions.

I knew all about pregnancy and AIDS and safe sex and birth control by age 11. It didn't turn me into a hussy, but it made me smart. I didn't have sex until I was 19, and since then I haven't had a single pregnancy scare. I've taken every precaution to be safe and healthy, because it's the responsible thing to do, and I knew that from having decent sex education. Thank god for the Clinton years.



Chass, you're awesome. Seriously, I'd vote for you for world president!

I agree on all you said. Here sex ed is usually given in last grade of primary school, that makes you about 11 too. My mom just gave me a book and told me if I had any questions I could ask them. Then ofcourse in the first grade of highschool it was taught at school, but most of us 12 years old kids knew it all.
Did it make us go crazy and have sex really early? Not at all! Ofcourse there are some less smart kids that made mistakes, but that's usually the less educated kids around.
If any, it made us smarter. Consider what we were doing more. Knowledge makes you think before you act. Abstinence forbids you something, and everyone knows that when you forbid a teenager something, it's way more tempting to do it!

intedomine 02-15-2009 08:31 AM

Thought this story was wierd to begin with (because the "father" looks younger than the baby), but now it's just funny and not just because the kid's name is Alfie....

3 other fellas have come out claiming they are the father of the kid, one of them at the ripe old age of 16, and apparently Chantelle was a right slut, and she slept with like every guy in her village, so anyone could be her father (or is willing to be the father to take a share of all the tabloid money)....meanwhile poor Alfie probably doesn't know what's going on, but he might be becoming a rather rich boy with the Sun constantly reporting this case.....:doh:.....these kids are celebrities, Chantelle is currently the world's most famous "slut".

Of course therea re huge social issues with this. Poor sex education, kids not understanding the possible consequences of their actions, but it's all becoming quite entertaining and laughable...

Sex education is screwed because kids' initial understanding of sex (usually at ages 6-9) is that it is a secret act, taboo and rude, or as the butt of all jokes...it's these stigmas associated with sex which arouses curiousity, and sex is never imagined as a mature act at all for kids in the early teens, just as a very unique human thing that is is to be joked about and something which adults do.

I'm pretty radical and liberal maybe, but in this truly fucked up society, the best way kids can be educated about sex is for their parents to be sexually liberal (as if it's no big deal, just a normal thing to do - like eating, showering, sleeping, listneing to music) and for kids to not find out about what sex is at school (which is what happens now), and to have an understanding about what sex is at the age of 4 or 5, before they get told what sex is by their classmates in grade 2 and before they hear so called comedians using sex as a means for getting a laugh.


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