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Old 05-11-2018, 06:57 PM   #196
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You’d think, but I’m not sure they have a good track record of switching it up in NY. If my memory is correct they played a total of 47 shows at MSG in 2015 and the only bone they threw was Lady Gaga. Two Hearts Beat as One, Troubles, Lucifer we’re also sprinkled in once.

Chicago and Boston always seem to get the best surprises.
You forgot The Roots and Jimmy Fallon one night, and Bruce Springsteen another night.
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You’d think, but I’m not sure they have a good track record of switching it up in NY. If my memory is correct they played a total of 47 shows at MSG in 2015 and the only bone they threw was Lady Gaga. Two Hearts Beat as One, Troubles, Lucifer we’re also sprinkled in once.

Chicago and Boston always seem to get the best surprises.
First 2 Hearts and October in 20+ years, Party Girl, Volcano, Bad, Troubles, All I Want is You w Shine Like Stars, Gaga, Paul Simon, Bruce, 40. It was quite a run.
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You’d think, but I’m not sure they have a good track record of switching it up in NY. If my memory is correct they played a total of 47 shows at MSG in 2015 and the only bone they threw was Lady Gaga. Two Hearts Beat as One, Troubles, Lucifer we’re also sprinkled in once.

Chicago and Boston always seem to get the best surprises.
Yeah, the 8 NYC shows may have been the most static longterm engagement of the North America leg. Foreshadowed the Euro leg in a way.
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Yeah, the 8 NYC shows may have been the most static longterm engagement of the North America leg. Foreshadowed the Euro leg in a way.
Right... but wouldn't ya know the two shows in that run that I don't go to got Two Hearts, The Troubles and Bruce Springsteen.

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Alright, it’s actually a better sprinkle of surprises than I remember.

I think I’m blacking that MSG run out, still bitter over my bad gamble.

I’d flown out to visit the family for a few days and I saw they were rehearsing Two Hearts and would likely play it that night so I head over to MSG around noon in sweltering heat in search of a ticket. Turned down a ton of scalper tickets, refreshing stub hub every 5 minutes and only seeing nosebleeds for around $280. I ended up in line at the box office pen from 2-9 and not a decent ticket dropped. I finally heard The Miracle start and the line dissolved. Walked away dehydrated, and watching Two Hearts on Periscope in a pizza joint with the last ounce of juice on my phone.

Note to self: when in NY, just buy the damn nosebleed seat.
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First 2 Hearts and October in 20+ years, Party Girl, Volcano, Bad, Troubles, All I Want is You w Shine Like Stars, Gaga, Paul Simon, Bruce, 40. It was quite a run.
Don't forget ZooTV style Satellite Of Love.
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Couldn't be worse than the Ordinary Love performance.
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Don't forget ZooTV style Satellite Of Love.


Fuck that's right. What a special 2 weeks.
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Couldn't be worse than the Ordinary Love performance.
When I say the run was static, I'm thinking of how Elevation, Ordinary Love, Desire, and Angel of Harlem kept showing up. The standard from previous cities was that the e stage would get a new set of songs almost every night.

True, there were some special moments in NYC. Fallon, Gaga, Springsteen. It all counts for something!
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I get that, though the previous cities didn't get 8 shows. Repeats were inevitable. The Gaga appearance show (night 6?) was probably the most static of the run.
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In terms of setlist structure, recent tours have definitely been more static than past ones. Elevation and Vertigo, if a city got to a third or fourth night, would have some real curveballs - sometimes in song choice, sometimes in structure. The run of four shows in Chicago in 2001 is instructive. Start here and click through to the next three: U2 Chicago, 2001-05-12, United Center, Elevation Tour - U2 on tour

By the time you get to the fourth you get a wacky ZooTV throwback to open the show that they never did again on that tour.

IE was definitely more static in structure than you'd expect from an arena tour with lots of multiple dates. It had plenty of songs rotating through - the band had more in their repertoire than perhaps ever before. But there were only a tiny number of slots where they'd come in, and the overall structure was rarely altered even a little.

In the past you'd think one of those NY/NJ shows would end up with some show that starts with five totally unexpected songs after Blackout (not necessarily tour debuts or rarities, just songs that are normally elsewhere in the set). But after how static 2015 and 2017 were, perhaps those expectations should be tempered.
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First 2 Hearts and October in 20+ years, Party Girl, Volcano, Bad, Troubles, All I Want is You w Shine Like Stars, Gaga, Paul Simon, Bruce, 40. It was quite a run.
We've had Magnificent in Amsterdam too.
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