Iggy Fizz
War Child
You just said that 6 to 7 songs in a 21 song set were "unnatural lows"
and you are aware that 7/21 = 1/3? so that does not equate to the whole show sucking. maybe you are using 'new math'?
You just said that 6 to 7 songs in a 21 song set were "unnatural lows"
Thanks.and you are aware that 7/21 = 1/3? so that does not equate to the whole show sucking. maybe you are using 'new math'?
Obviously there will be people who go to the show and are besides themselves that they didn't play Streets, Sunday Bloody Sunday and Free Bird, and who've never owned a single copy or Achtung Baby and don't know what this Acrobat is.The Calling is a great tune. Killer live as well.
I don't think any band is immune to whatever criticism, really. I've also heard stories about people seeing Pearl Jam and disappointed they didn't hear Jeremy/Even Flow/etc. - since they got the "other setlist" night, or that their show dragged on and one with a bunch of tracks they didn't know. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. But it's safe to say that most people go to those shows or U2's or whoever's and enjoy themselves. Hence why their solid live draws in the first place.
In the end, we can cherry pick what songs went "right" and which ones went "wrong". But the fact is more people are going to enjoy and react to songs they know at just about any show.
Negative. In Seattle there were quite a few unnatural lows - OTH, RTSS, MOTD, Ultraviolet, MS, Little Things... to name a few. Even Exit was not this epic experience people are talking about - at least for me and the area on the floor I was standing in.
the folks I know who were there and who really loved the show, had not seen U2 for many years. i.e. the causuals.
I completely disagree. I have taken my entire family (10 of us, parents/siblings/spouces) to every tour since Vertigo, sometimes to multiple shows each tour. They are fans but are much more casual than I am. I posed the question of whether or not they had ever heard the song Acrobat and 9/10 had never heard of it; ie, only me the 'big fan' knew the song (and this includes my spouse who has seen 10 shows). Additionally no one knew 'So Cruel' or 'Love is blindness'. I think it's safe to assume every album has deep cuts...
Obviously there will be people who go to the show and are besides themselves that they didn't play Streets, Sunday Bloody Sunday and Free Bird, and who've never owned a single copy or Achtung Baby and don't know what this Acrobat is.
These people will be the minority.
Thanks.
I often think shows where a third of the set sucks are just terrific.
So before you get the sarcastic “oh, well 10 of your family members didn’t know them so it must be true” responses, I agree that there are many songs on Achtung that casual fans don’t really know or care much about and “So Cruel”, “Acrobat “ and “Love is Blindness” are three of them. That’s doesn’t mean they are bad songs, it just means that Achtung Baby isn’t “Thriller” and there are in fact....”deep cuts”.
So before you get the sarcastic “oh, well 10 of your family members didn’t know them so it must be true” responses, I agree that there are many songs on Achtung that casual fans don’t really know or care much about and “So Cruel”, “Acrobat “ and “Love is Blindness” are three of them. That’s doesn’t mean they are bad songs, it just means that Achtung Baby isn’t “Thriller” and there are in fact....”deep cuts”.
I'll disagree again. The album is an older album and the music universe is pretty vast. I was an early converter to digital formats and prior to that I literally had over 1000 CDs & tapes, and the library has only grown since then. There is an awful lot of music out there. The people coming to forums such as this one are the 'big fans' and are sometimes a bit myopic and in their own music universe. (&, for the record, Achtung baby is my favorite album ever recorded.)
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So wait, are we now arguing that Achtung Baby wasn't a massively huge album now? Is that what's up?
Do people honestly believe that the overwhelming majority of people who go to a U2 show don't have Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby in their collections?
And a follow up to question one, if you are saying that, are you crazy?
Please re-read my entire post. I never 'argued' that. You are literally putting words in my mouth.
I've reread your posts again, and if that's not what you're saying, then I have no idea what you're saying.Again, not at all saying any of the above. Please stop putting words in my/our mouth(s).
At the MetLife Stadium I had a similar experience.....RHMT, OTH, Exit, TTYW and MOTD were all lows from the crowd in the stands (GA seemed a little more animated) with many actually sitting down. Miss Sarajevo was the ultimate low point and it sucked all the energy out of the place and Ultraviolet was a small shot in the arm but not much.
Ironically, it was the newer hits (Elevation, Vertigo, Beautiful Day) that saved the last half of the show.
But perhaps other sections of the stadium were feeling it more....didn’t seem like it though.
I've reread your posts again, and if that's not what you're saying, then I have no idea what you're saying.
You're saying that people who go to U2 concerts won't know Acrobat because they owned a lot of CDs?
So before you get the sarcastic “oh, well 10 of your family members didn’t know them so it must be true” responses, I agree that there are many songs on Achtung that casual fans don’t really know or care much about and “So Cruel”, “Acrobat “ and “Love is Blindness” are three of them. That’s doesn’t mean they are bad songs, it just means that Achtung Baby isn’t “Thriller” and there are in fact....”deep cuts”.
he's saying that Acrobat was not and is not well known, even though it is on a hugely successful record. that record was hugely successful due to a whole bunch of songs not named Acrobat.
this is not really that hard to understand.
At the MetLife Stadium I had a similar experience.....RHMT, OTH, Exit, TTYW and MOTD were all lows from the crowd in the stands (GA seemed a little more animated) with many actually sitting down. Miss Sarajevo was the ultimate low point and it sucked all the energy out of the place and Ultraviolet was a small shot in the arm but not much.
Ironically, it was the newer hits (Elevation, Vertigo, Beautiful Day) that saved the last half of the show.
But perhaps other sections of the stadium were feeling it more....didn’t seem like it though.
And I'm saying he's wrong, and every song on that album is known by the majority of people who would actually pay $350 to go to a U2 concert.
Also not very hard to understand.
THEN came Ultraviolet, and the crowd start leaving in droves. I’m not a big fan of JT UV vs 360 UV, the latter which I found awesome!
So, what I'm saying is, I'd prefer Streets to be around, but I'm chill about whatever happens. And if I copped an 18 November 1989-esque show where Gloria took Streets' place, shit yeah I'll take Gloria, not every day you get that live.
Where's Little Things That Give You Away in the rehearsals? And Red Flag Day?
That first version of what resembles a full set also seems to be missing encores imo.