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These were years where U2 basically did not exist in any real public way. That's what 2019 is going to be like. We all lived through it.
 
There will be rumours of an Australia tour in 2019. It won't happen, of course, but some idiot on Triple M or Channel Nine or wherever will claim it's happening.

The most exciting U2 activity in 2019 will be Edge or Adam showing up at somebody else's gig.

2020 will have some Boy 40th celebration. Ten bucks it's a couple of club gigs where the small handful of tickets are available only through a contest and of course nobody who truly loves the album gets to go. Somehow, Sil is there.

2021 the band take the cash and do a quick AB30 run. Inexplicably, but predictably, there are more shows in North America than Europe.

2022 rumours of a new album.

2023 rumours of a new album.

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2033 rumours of a new album.

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2063 although all four band members are now dead, rumours of a new album.
 
There will be rumours of an Australia tour in 2019. It won't happen, of course, but some idiot on Triple M or Channel Nine or wherever will claim it's happening.

I noticed that the waitlist section on ticketek's website once again has U2 listed there. Why do they do this to us.
 
We did have this little gem in 2013.

https://youtu.be/iXlsbEM9-CM



Whoaaaaa total trip down memory lane there. I had forgotten that that happened.

In 2013, I was in New York for a few months (college summer internship), and I remember actually going to Electric Lady a couple of times to try to see if I could hear anything. Now I’m in New York again for the short term (six months), so funny to think back to those times.

Great little cover.
 
For Bono and Larry, the fountain of youth stopped working after I+E. :reject:

As for This Is, it’s definitely one of their most enjoyable covers.
 
For all that stuff Bono used to joke about the portrait in the attic and all the rest of it, I feel like The Edge is the only one who could have difficulty getting a seniors discount at a restaurant. Bono increasingly resembles a beatnik Samuel Beckett, and Adam looks older than his own dad.
 
I'd like them to relax. Do more spontaneous things. non-album tracks. Mini-concerts like the Apollo.
 
It’s pretty alarming how much Bono and Larry have aged in the last 5 years. I was watching videos of invisible and The Miracle, and they pretty much look exactly as they did on 360 Tour. But the past couple years they’ve aged 15 years.
 
They've all referenced the fact they've effectively been recording and touring since 2013 and in recent interviews have again been saying how punishing touring is, so they're clearly off for a break. I found the recent shows very emotional but not entirely sure why, maybe its because its such a joy and privilege to see them live and its now getting to the point where you don't know if they will tour again (I think they will but not for a few years).

I'd still like to see them release more new music - no need to tour every album - but we all know that's not how they like to work and with age it seems to be getting even more difficult for them to agree on anything and just go with it. I'd hope Bono's recent brush(es) with death would spur them on to think about their legacy and get stuff recorded and out there, but that's wishful thinking.
 
I'm so tired of people acting like these are frail octogenarians. They're in their late 50s and still kicking. Sure, Bono could take it easy on the partying, but I still think they could continue to put on tours for years to come, as long as they give their bodies rest. I would put my life savings on E&I not being their last tour.
 
Apparently people freaked out because U2 get massages before each show, that must mean their frail old bodies can’t handle it.

My Dad is 61. I would classify his healthy as “average”. He’s a farmer like me, and I’d say he probably works his body harder than any member of U2, except Larry. He doesn’t require daily massages or physical therapy. Unless something bad happens, I see no reason why my Dad won’t be doing the same thing in 10 years that he is now. Turning 60 does not suddenly make you this frail old man with nothing left to offer. I see no reason why they wouldn’t tour into their mid 60’s or so. They may need to adopt a schedule more like the Stones do, but that’s ok.
 
If I didn't already have a big overseas trip planned for next May, I'd have booked a trip to Ireland for Dublin and Belfast shows, just in case this is it for a while.

Oh well. I'll live.
 
I'm so tired of people acting like these are frail octogenarians. They're in their late 50s and still kicking. Sure, Bono could take it easy on the partying, but I still think they could continue to put on tours for years to come, as long as they give their bodies rest. I would put my life savings on E&I not being their last tour.

Counterpoint(s):

bands performing together with their original lineup intact into their 60s is incredibly rare. Key word is bands, not solo acts. But even Springsteen has had two members of his backing band pass away, and needed to have a substitute drummer on one tour.

The lead singer has had at least 3 career and/or life threatening incidents in the past 10 years (emergency back surgery, bike crash, mysterious brush with death)

The band themselves have spoken about not knowing how long this can continue in recent articles

They have always been a band who stated they needed to be relevant to continue, didn't want to be a heritage act just touring on their past, etc. To continue, they will need to face this head on

Larry has had multiple surgeries

Mid 50s to late 60s is a scary ass time for people's health.




Nobody is saying there's no chance they can continue. But to not acknowledge that they've entered territory where a new tour/album cycle is no longer a guarantee is not acknowledging reality.

People should enjoy every moment of what's left and certainly not assume that this will/can continue for another 10-20 years.
 
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Apparently people freaked out because U2 get massages before each show, that must mean their frail old bodies can’t handle it.

My Dad is 61. I would classify his healthy as “average”. He’s a farmer like me, and I’d say he probably works his body harder than any member of U2, except Larry. He doesn’t require daily massages or physical therapy. Unless something bad happens, I see no reason why my Dad won’t be doing the same thing in 10 years that he is now. Turning 60 does not suddenly make you this frail old man with nothing left to offer. I see no reason why they wouldn’t tour into their mid 60’s or so. They may need to adopt a schedule more like the Stones do, but that’s ok.
The Stones don't have the same lineup in place that they did when they began.

They also have a lead singer who has been manic about his physical health for the past few decades.

This is not apples to apples.
 
True. Maybe I have seen my last U2 show already. That would suck, but I could accept that.

My point is that barring some unforeseen illness or accident, I think that these 4 guys intend to continue as long as they can. We just have to take it one album/tour at a time. Eventually it will be the last one.

All we really know is that they have 5 shows left. After that, it’s all a giant ?
 
Yeah, it's really up in the air at this point. I would sort of like them to ditch the "Songs of" thing, but seeing as their albums kinda work in trilogies, it's maybe still possible at this point. Nonetheless, I'd like something new and different from them (wishful thinking, I realize). But I would really like them to take a break and think about what's next. Hopefully after the 18 years of chasing hits, maybe something can make them pursue another direction (I'm skeptical admittedly).

If they don't resign with Live Nation, we could be in for an interesting detour. Nonetheless, I don't think they will go the R.E.M. route. As a fan of R.E.M., I felt the way they disbanded was classy and the way every band should. A tour would've been nice (or some gigs here and there), but I liked how low key it was and it was on their own terms. I also kinda admire how they're sticking to it, I actually don't think they will reunite. Yeah, it's only been 7 years, but they seem pretty content with it and are all doing their own thing. Never say never of course.

U2 is not low key, so it's gonna be massive whatever it is. Willie Williams has hinted at future tour ideas himself, of course I'm not sure if those will come into fruition (with U2), but we'll see. It's gonna be awhile nonetheless. However, I'd personally take more music over touring any day. Yes, I understand on stage is where they live, but I just want more music.

Will they acknowledge ATYCLB in 2020 too? Boy obviously makes more sense (plus it's been 40 years), but ATYCLB was a huge success and reboot for them and certainly brought them in new fans (whatever you think of it). I doubt it, but you never know.
 
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After the shows I’ve just saw they are still on top form, arguably the best shows I’ve ever saw from them and I’ve been into them since 2000. They don’t look like stopping anyway.

Who knows though, but we’ve had this discussion every time a tour ends. I do get there is more health problems now but after the 3 shows I’ve just saw they look perfectly fine to me
 
I think they are at the top of the game, and I'm also seeing them since 2000.
They have been through 4 years of intense work, which is incredible as it's their longest run since the 80s? They need to rest.
Bono is in much better condition than most of the people here say. And he doesn't need to jump the whole show anymore. His voice is incredibly good for his age, he is really saving it well.

I don't know if they'll continue as I've said this tour is the farewell of any band's dreams. It's perfect from start to finish. But I guess they'll just keep going, decreasing the number of the shows for sure, but I don't see them ending their career right now.
 
Apparently people freaked out because U2 get massages before each show, that must mean their frail old bodies can’t handle it.

My Dad is 61. I would classify his healthy as “average”. He’s a farmer like me, and I’d say he probably works his body harder than any member of U2, except Larry. He doesn’t require daily massages or physical therapy. Unless something bad happens, I see no reason why my Dad won’t be doing the same thing in 10 years that he is now. Turning 60 does not suddenly make you this frail old man with nothing left to offer. I see no reason why they wouldn’t tour into their mid 60’s or so. They may need to adopt a schedule more like the Stones do, but that’s ok.

it's really common for musicians to need physio, due to repetitive strain, especially if they haven't had correct training from a young age re. position etc.

a good physio can change everything... my kids are both musicians, drummer and bassist, in their 20s, juggling studies and gigging, both do various metal sub-genres which are very physically intensive and taxing, even on young healthy bodies! my drummer son started to get early signs of wrist tension about 18 months ago (despite being classically/conservatoire trained from a young age), and i found him a physio who specialises in working with musicians (thru sheer luck, via a sports physio practice who gave me his phone number) and he has been AMAZING - my son had to take his snare and drum stool and sticks etc to his clinic for his first appointment so the physio could get an idea of his position, and then for the next appointment actually went to his studio to see him drum on his full size kit - the guy was incredible! and just made a few minor but fundamental tweaks to his position, and it literally freed him up and has enabled him to drum even faster but more effortlessly - something to do with using his core more, and taking pressure off the arms... whatever, it has been a game-changer for my son, and i'm immensely relieved he has had such valuable input early on...

my bassist daughter (a metal bassist, but also a jazz bassist, so really intense technique) also has trouble now and again, and saw the same physio, who sorted her position, but she wasn't quite right, and he felt the tension was coming from her jaw (clenching), and running down to shoulder then arm so said she should see a jaw specialist - so i found her a specialist jaw physio/osteopath - he looked at her face, said "hmmm looks ok, open your mouth - oh merde!" and turns out her jaw was slightly misaligned and causing problems lower down... he did a great job fixing her with physio too... the jaw specialist physio also treats a band mate of theirs who is a singer in a hardcore punk band so does sort of "screaming/growling" thing, and he helps her a lot!! physio is fantastic for sorting out problems when they arise, and recorrecting things... it's normal for musicians to look after their bodies in the same way athletes do, due to the repetitive strain on joints and muscles due to hours and hours of practising... their physio said it's actually worse for musicians than athletes, as athletes train hard for competitions/matches then can take some down time to recover, whereas musicians have to practice constantly to maintain their performance and getting down time is difficult, as it's a nightmare to catch up... with music if you don't use it you lose it, and fast

also guitars and basses are actually really heavy, to play and carry around for long periods... my daughter has the Fender aerodyne which is gorgeous and much lighter compared to other Fender basses which she finds reaally heavy... she also has a couple of Ibanez basses too, one 5 string, which are nice and light too... but the Fender aerodyne is her fave though, better quality overall, lovely and light and just stunning to look at too haha, so even the weight of the instrument takes its toll
 
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Counterpoint(s):

bands performing together with their original lineup intact into their 60s is incredibly rare. Key word is bands, not solo acts. But even Springsteen has had two members of his backing band pass away, and needed to have a substitute drummer on one tour.

The lead singer has had at least 3 career and/or life threatening incidents in the past 10 years (emergency back surgery, bike crash, mysterious brush with death)

The band themselves have spoken about not knowing how long this can continue in recent articles

They have always been a band who stated they needed to be relevant to continue, didn't want to be a heritage act just touring on their past, etc. To continue, they will need to face this head on

Larry has had multiple surgeries

Mid 50s to late 60s is a scary ass time for people's health.




Nobody is saying there's no chance they can continue. But to not acknowledge that they've entered territory where a new tour/album cycle is no longer a guarantee is not acknowledging reality.

People should enjoy every moment of what's left and certainly not assume that this will/can continue for another 10-20 years.

i think they actually push themselves way too hard, especially with their gruelling tour schedules in recent years - they all need to calm the fuck down actually :madwife:
 
i think they actually push themselves way too hard, especially with their gruelling tour schedules in recent years - they all need to calm the fuck down actually :madwife:
I mean... this kinda adds to the point.

Like - this isn't that hard. They've toured 3 out of 4 years, in a limited number of cities, in mostly the US and Europe, with more or less the exact same setlist each night (tour dependent).

This isn't what one would consider to be grueling for professional musicians in tip top shape.

It's grueling because the lead singer started falling apart physically at the start of this stretch
 
I mean... this kinda adds to the point.

Like - this isn't that hard. They've toured 3 out of 4 years, in a limited number of cities, in mostly the US and Europe, with more or less the exact same setlist each night (tour dependent).

This isn't what one would consider to be grueling for professional musicians in tip top shape.

It's grueling because the lead singer started falling apart physically at the start of this stretch

putting on 3 different major tours for 3 out of 4 years is massively intense - what other bands of their status do that??

yeah and especially gruelling given the circumstances re. accidents etc. it's nuts, it's too much... i dunno though, maybe they wouldn't want it any other way, but they need to take care of themselves though
 
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putting on 3 different major tours for 3 out of 4 years is massively intense - what other bands of their status do that??

yeah and especially gruelling given the circumstances re. accidents etc. it's nuts, it's too much... i dunno though, maybe they wouldn't want it any other way, but they need to take care of themselves though

What other bands in their 50s are on tour 3 out of 4 years?

Tons.

And most aren't flying around on private jets playing the same venue for a week.

And U2 have essentially put on 3 different shows. Some of these bands... I know, this is hard to believe... but some put on a different show EVERY NIGHT OF THE TOUR.

I know. I was surprised, too
 
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