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Old 08-06-2017, 09:13 AM   #16
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Bono's Voice for 2017 (Official Thread)

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So the iE Tour was the first one I saw and felt it lacked serious energy and felt "off" for me. However, that is almost definitely due to his bike accident vs his age (perhaps a bit of age included).

He was more energetic during the JT tour but still not as much as the 360 tour and perhaps he will never be the same.

As for his voice, since PopMart he has had struggles here and there with songs. To your point, With or Without you Mexico City...his voice didn't crack, it shattered.

However, fast forward 20 years to his performance of Every Breaking Wave at the European MTV awards and it was incredible! Heck, his performance of Song for Someone on Graham Norton was really good too.

I wish he would lose those God awful glasses and the sports coat he rocks...makes him look 70 vs 57!
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:17 AM   #17
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Must be a tale of two shows. I thought the band seemed much more energetic on I&E than they were on 360 for sure. That was such a good show.
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So the iE Tour was the first one I saw and felt it lacked serious energy and felt "off" for me.
Guess it depends on the night. Saw them for iE in Phoenix second night and Bono and the band was fired up.

I mean, when I think about it . . . U2 is always more active than other acts . . . . I've seen Blink 182 twice in the past year and all they do is stand in one place and play their music.

Perhaps Bono set the bar too high back when he was crowd diving and climbing scaffolds.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:29 AM   #19
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Yeah, I would say I&E had more energy than the JT shows I sae this year. And I see people say the opposite. Interesting to see such varied perceptions.
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Guess it depends on the night. Saw them for iE in Phoenix second night and Bono and the band was fired up.

I mean, when I think about it . . . U2 is always more active than other acts . . . . I've seen Blink 182 twice in the past year and all they do is stand in one place and play their music.

Perhaps Bono set the bar too high back when he was crowd diving and climbing scaffolds.

I was at both Phoenix shows for IE and was for the energy level. Those first 4 songs on both nights was the most hyped up beginning for a U2 show I've seen since Zoo or Popmart.
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Old 08-08-2017, 01:05 AM   #21
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If I wanted to hear Bono sing, I would just download from u2start.
Plus, the vocal performance of ASOH in Chicago 2, was precise as balls.
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fuck you people need to get a life. he sounds fine.
Nah man, you just need to be patient that some people, might not be able to state their argument as accurately as possible/ they would like, on a fan forum.
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Old 08-09-2017, 02:58 AM   #23
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Must be a tale of two shows. I thought the band seemed much more energetic on I&E than they were on 360 for sure. That was such a good show.
This is just exactly it right here!

A lot of posters just on these 2 pages of the thread so far have been painting in broad strokes with these tours. As others have pointed out, unless you're talking 1983-1986- consistently great or 1997-2002- consistently weak, you can't just say one tour was better than the other. There was and remains substantial variation within tours and eras.

Take 360. As One Cool Dude mentioned, he sounded much, much better after his back surgery. Vocally and in terms of band energy. I remember seeing the 2 Foxboro shows in 2009 and while Bono sang pretty well, the whole vibe felt way off. In my opinion, even the good NLOTH songs didn't take off live- with the notable exception of MOS. I remember watching Bono run around the ellipse in Turin in August 2010 as Edge did the Stingray riff and thinking "I've got my band back." I saw 2 shows in person on the 2011 NA leg of 360- Montreal 1 and Philadelphia. Both were unbelievably good. Strong, consistent and very clear, full vocals from Bono. The energy on that leg of 360 was very special.

So you have all that variation within just one tour.

I&E Boston 1 2015 was both the best U2 show I've ever witnessed and the best I've heard Bono sound. I thought the energy level was up a notch from 2011 360 and way up from 2009 360. On I&E overall, he seemed more hit and miss than 360, but the highs were a little higher. JT 30 has been much the same experience from the 4 shows I've seen so far. Maybe a bit more consistent than I&E actually. We're so used to them playing the entire JT album now that it's kind of getting overlooked, but there is not one song on there that he's not singing extremely well and with passion every night. The same goes for the short early 80s mini set before JT. Bad and Pride are a bit night to night, but when the hell weren't they? Even in the mid 80s. The important thing to remember is both continue to sound far better since 360 than they did on Popmart, Elevation and Vertigo.

To paint with the broadest brush possible, I would say his voice hasn't changed any in terms of ability since 360. What has changed, to my ears, is he's a little less consistent. More 80s like actually- on the nights he's on, he blows you away and still has this explosive power that seems to come out of nowhere. Off nights aren't anywhere near as noticeable as they were on Elevation, Popmart, Lovetown and JT 87.

I'm not explaining this well, it's a nuanced picture. However, overall, since 360, we're looking basically at a consistent voice that is holding up remarkably well and has even improved in some respects.

Does he sound exactly like he did 1984-1986? Or 1992-1993? Of course not and he can't be expected to. Is it still clear that it's the same person, same voice and does it still do the songs justice? Absolutely.
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Yeah, I would say I&E had more energy than the JT shows I sae this year. And I see people say the opposite. Interesting to see such varied perceptions.
Both can be right. Could've seen a show on IE where Bono was energetic and 100% on, and then saw a more tired Bono on JT, or vise versa.

Anyway, to the dude with the long post - I wouldn't make a decision based on a recording whether or not to sell my tickets. I guess if I had to drive 10 hours and commit time and whatnot, maybe it would be different? I don't know.
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It's been hit and miss for me recent years. IE difference between first two and final Amsterdam night was night and day, Bono putting so much more into the final night. Same during JT tour actually, night 1 he phoned it in, night 2 was superb, although ASOH was a bit lazy, Berlin and Brussels were amazing too with a great Bad in Brussels. I thought he sang much much weaker during the 360 tour.

Now I just want some more Achtung baby/pop songs in 3 years with a similar sort of tour, all lower range songs ought to be amazing at this stage, since it does sound more full again.
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Yeah, I definitely thought the band had more energy at I&E. JT felt lazy when I saw it, but watching periscopes of the later dates sounded pretty good.
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From 8:00 and forward in this video(starts with a B4)
https://youtu.be/eDy7j_2ajAE?t=7m57s
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From 8:00 and forward in this video(starts with a B4)
https://youtu.be/eDy7j_2ajAE?t=7m57s
Damn! That's amazing!

I do a lot of watching of footage but I missed that.

Nice to hear he's still able to sing with that raw power.

The extent to which his baseline reliability has improved while moments like you posted here have become more frequent is really special.
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Damn! That's amazing!

I do a lot of watching of footage but I missed that.

Nice to hear he's still able to sing with that raw power.

The extent to which his baseline reliability has improved while moments like you posted here have become more frequent is really special.
I know that this isnt from 2017, its from 2015 but you need to hear this(from 6m10s and forward):
https://youtu.be/_rSo5tXvtBs?t=6m10s
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