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Old 12-07-2015, 09:52 PM   #1
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Why they are doing this?

Hi, long time no see...

I just can't understand why the band are leaving arguably the strongest tunes of SOI out of the setlist. I was watching the Paris concert and it's clear that the new songs are the weak spots of the show. They got two great live songs, California and Volcano. Then there is this intriguing, interesting tune in the form of Sleep like a Baby, and a possible crowd lifting one in Reach me Now, with a very nice beat and a sing along chorus. A full band, electric version of Breaking Wave would be much better live. Why leave them out??? I just dont get it. Normally new songs get a cold reaction with the crowd, specially when you have really epic songs like Streets, Bullet the Blue Sky and Until the end of the World in your repertoire. Its tough to compete with those. So bring the A game of your new record guys.
I have a taste of unfulfilled potential about this tour. They have a good, rejuvenated album on their hands, and they play its most conservative, downbeat songs on this new tour. Why, since its almost too obvious that those songs i mentioned above would transform the show...
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:01 PM   #2
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Old 12-07-2015, 10:09 PM   #3
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But...how do you feel about the new Coldplay album?

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Old 12-08-2015, 02:32 AM   #4
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:35 AM   #5
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Seriously? Have you been at a show?
The new songs work really well, and integrate really well with the best of section of the show. Especially Raised by Wolves is very powerful, Iris is perfectly intimate for this type of show, Cedarwood Road kind of groovy, Every Breaking Wave works very well as an acoustic version combined with October. I would also like to hear Volcano and who wouldn't love Sleep like a baby. But I have to admit that the latter wouldn't really fit the narrative of this tour, and it must be hard to turn into a live song. So I understand why it hasn't been played...
In any case I certainly don't have the feeling of unfulfilled potential. This tour has been absolutely amazing. Of course we always wish for a larger setlist, and there are a ton of songs I'd love to hear live, both from SOI and older albums. But they have to make a choice in the setlist. And they made a very good choice in this case! Wonderful setlists and wonderful live performances of SOI songs and older songs alike. (side note: I love love love what they have turned Bullet into. What a powerful song and so much better than the album version!!)
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:37 AM   #6
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I just finished the show via HBO Now. What a very moving and powerful show. The production of this tour has been amazing and the narrative defined by the songs played that ranges from the beginning of the band, war, joy and current political topics is astounding and makes perfectly good sense. The new songs fit in perfectly and tell a story. Old songs are played with renewed vigor and have more significance in today's current climate of political unrest.


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Old 12-08-2015, 06:42 AM   #9
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it's a shame the characters who "graced" last night's setlist thread don't join in - i would love to see a thread where they can really go for it and have a proper blast
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I wou;ld swap song for someone with California but I do get the reason it is played of course. for me raised by wolves is the highlight of the new song..sounds amazing live and realy is one of the highlights of the whole concert for me
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Sorry but i can't praise everything they do. I am a huge fan, not a worshiper. When i watch a concert and the crowd is really ecstatic i feel somehting is out of place.
The show is very good, but could be much better. Check out the energy at the Elevation DVD in Boston. I know it's difficult for some people to admit that U2 sometimes fall short from greatness. This tour is not making the impact it should. At leat it's my perception.
And i am not saying that Wolves and Cedarwood are not great, they are. But Song for Someone, Iris and accoustic EBW, leaving their meaning for the band, etc, aside for a moment, are not just as good, uplifting and crowd pleasing as Volcano, California or full band EBW. And SLABT is probably the most interesting song on the album, with a good arrangement, heavier interpretation could be a highlight. And Reach me now, well, just try to imagine that live...
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Mock me as much as you want, but that's my point. They could make this show better just by changing some songs, why not do it?
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Sorry but i can't praise everything they do. I am a huge fan, not a worshiper. When i watch a concert and the crowd is really ecstatic i feel somehting is out of place.
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Yeah, I hate when a crowd is ecstatic...

The whole "worship" praise everything they do" thing is tired, try real discussion sometime.

People who have gone are saying the new songs are some of the highlights; Miracle is much better live, Iris is an emotional highlight, Wolves is one of the strongest of this tour, etc.

California is great and I wish they found a way to make it fit and I agree Reach is a head scratcher, but that's about it. Volcano is fun but doesn't need to be a staple, and SLABT is one of my faves on the album but I don't think it would transfer live.

I'd also love to see Troubles, but you have to keep in mind their catalog and playing 3/4 of your new album would be almost impossible at this stage.


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Old 12-08-2015, 09:12 AM   #15
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This is not about "everything U2 do is gold". But given your last two replies, I repeat my question: have you seen one of the shows live? If you haven't, don't judge. I know plenty of people whose perception of SOI and of the ie tour changed significantly after seeing it live (vs just youtube videos, HBO etc.). The energy is of course not the same in every city and in every venue, but almost all shows I've been to had great energy and the new songs ALL worked really well.
Agree 100% with BVS. They cannot realistically be expected to play more SOI songs on a regular basis. The songs they do play are part of the standard set because they're the core narrative of this show. So, playing some of the other SOI songs in addition, would mean taking out other songs. They've done that on some occasions (on e-stage). The "problem" is that they're trapped inside this golden cage that they created with a show that follows a strong narrative. So there are only a few songs which can be changed. That's the downside of having a show that truly tells a story. I'd love some more changes as well, but I see why they're not doing it. I'd rather put in some other old songs (for example An Cat Dubh would have worked wonderfully in Dublin in the e-stage block). There are also a few more songs they could play in the opening block. And one could argue that COBL and Beautiful Day could be replaced, but they are crowd pleasers... Anyways, this is straying too far from the topic
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