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Old 12-08-2014, 06:46 PM   #1
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Here's Where All The Tickets Went

Beyond Ticketmaster's own reselling site, well, read it and weep...

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Literally adds up to the thousands for a lot of arenas. And they seem to be completely legitimate and are even selling lower level seats for way under the $300+ price range over on Ticketmaster. This is where most of the action went, people. Although the deals are way better than what's on TM, it's absolutely heartbreaking. Just taking a quick look at the second San Jose show, I'm eyeballing about 2,000 tickets alone.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:50 PM   #2
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how does this happen? How can they resell them if you have to be the person that bought them to gain access? I just don't get it
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People, that site has 2,274 tickets just in the upper level alone. That's one night. In San Jose.

At this point, someone needs to point this out to the band. This is the Springsteen situation all over again. Do we really live in a world where the actual onsale doesn't exist and it's expected of you to buy tickets from the resellers? Over 2,000 tickets in just the upper deck! It's no wonder nothing was available this morning.
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how does this happen? How can they resell them if you have to be the person that bought them to gain access? I just don't get it
What do you mean? They use bots or it's just a cover for Ticketmaster or whomever else. I don't really see GAs on here but I haven't really looked for them yet. I'm just pointing out actual seats since those can be transferred. GAs can't be transferred, theoretically, but all Ticketmaster has to do is shuffle them off to another one of their sites and the buyer they scalp them to will be the first buyer and have the only matching credit card information.

So freakin' lame.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:54 PM   #5
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They are selling GA's for Van1 for a mere $8950.00 each! What a steal!
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For example, the first Chicago show has 106 GA tickets listed, starting at the low price of $234. Of course, the prices are in addition to stupid fees as well.

GA ticket = $234 x 2 ($468)
Service Charges = $57.89 x 2 ($115.78)
'Special' Delivery = $14.95 (so the scalper can lovingly attempt to escort you into the venue?!?)

Total for two GA = $598.73
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:56 PM   #7
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Final total for May 19th in San Jose? 3149 total when adding in the lower level, plus (somehow) 82 GA tickets gives us a grand total of 3,231 tickets being scalped on OnlineCityTickets alone for a single gig.


Seriously, fellow fans on @U2, Interference and elsewhere. Get writing articles. I know a lot of you might not care or whatever because you easily landed GAs in the presale but this should be brought to the band and everyone's attention.
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Empty sections in Toronto with 30-40 seats in the uppers just upped and sol after being empty 2 hours earlier. Bullshit.
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I very much doubt that all those tickets are only the property of OnlineCityTickets.

The vast majority of these companies are tied into the same database of tickets - only the prices and fees vary.
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Final total for May 19th in San Jose? 3149 total when adding in the lower level, plus (somehow) 82 GA tickets gives us a grand total of 3,231 tickets being scalped on OnlineCityTickets alone for a single gig.
BigMac, with all do respect for you and please DON'T take this ad I'm at all siding with TM or Ticket Agency's because I'm not, but this happens every year with DMB tickets and even with the last two U2 tours. I take sales trips to different cities where these bands are playing and take customers to these shows. It's a double edged sword, if you wait to buy tickets 36-24 hours before show date the prices drop in most cases by at least 50%. I now have this down to science and haven't missed a show since figuring this out.

As I said I don't condone this but it can work against these guys two.
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Yeah, it sucks but that's the reality we live in these days, when it comes to concert tickets and the white-hot aftermarket. I think the band does about as much as they reasonably can to control it, but you can only do so much. This basically happens with every U2 tour.
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BigMac, with all do respect for you and please DON'T take this ad I'm at all siding with TM or Ticket Agency's because I'm not, but this happens every year with DMB tickets and even with the last two U2 tours. I take sales trips to different cities where these bands are playing and take customers to these shows. It's a double edged sword, if you wait to buy tickets 36-24 hours before show date the prices drop in most cases by at least 50%. I now have this down to science and haven't missed a show since figuring this out.

As I said I don't condone this but it can work against these guys two.

Nah, I have no problem with anything you said, but the last two U2 tours have NOT had as great a percentage of tickets hawked this way...Ticketmaster only recently started swallowing up their own tickets and pulling these sort of stunts. You can't tell me for Vertigo that over 3,000 people at a single gig were getting tickets via resellers. And again, we don't even know what the actual total of tickets are currently held by said scalpers, just that this particular site links to over 3200. There are surely more not listed on this site and there are surely some that have already been sold via the scalpers to some other fans.

For what it's worth, prices are fluctuating...nosebleeds with the fees are running about $78 total ($64 before fees) (and not including a small delivery fee), so that's at least getting closer to the $40 that they were supposed to sell for in full this morning via TM. I'll take your advice about prices dropping near show day...that's usually when the scalpers get antsy and have very few options left at their disposal. I don't think they'll be able to even get face value for these more expensive tickets ($300+) when those dates of the shows actually roll up.
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Yeah, it sucks but that's the reality we live in these days, when it comes to concert tickets and the white-hot aftermarket. I think the band does about as much as they reasonably can to control it, but you can only do so much. This basically happens with every U2 tour.
If the band wanted to control it, they could have done paperless tickets across the board. There would be no aftermarket except for some idiots trying to show up with you at the venue.

And that shit isn't going to work. I get the feeling there will be a GA line and then you will pick up your tickets one by one as you enter the building. So how is the fan that wants to wait for U2 early in the afternoon going to get into the show when their scalper person doesn't want to show up until like 7 PM to let them in? And how is he going to be in line multiple times to keep picking up his endless batch of tickets that he scalped?

Obviously, some of the scalpers with GAs are practically sitting on worthless tickets at this point, but if they do sell some for some outrageous sort of money they might figure something out.
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Yeah, it sucks but that's the reality we live in these days, when it comes to concert tickets and the white-hot aftermarket. I think the band does about as much as they reasonably can to control it, but you can only do so much. This basically happens with every U2 tour.
There isn't the will to do anything about it. There are many things that could be done to dissuade scalpers. One would be to delay mailing tickets until 7-10 days before the show (with tracking). Another would be to make more sections paperless, and open the venue doors a bit earlier. But then TM/LiveNation and these scalper sites wouldn't be as filthy rich.
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Yeah, it sucks but that's the reality we live in these days, when it comes to concert tickets and the white-hot aftermarket.
And it's not a reality so much as that it only effects premium events which include major mainstream artists. I and everyone else have next to no trouble seeing hundreds of the best indie acts out there with relative ease and few of those tickets end up on the resale market. It's just that these nefarious groups take advantage of the huge names since there's bigger profit potential involved. Most shows don't cost what a U2 show costs or anywhere in that range. Your indie band playing The Warfield in San Francisco for $30-40 plus fees doesn't really go for much higher on the resale market, if anything, because the fans just don't go if they can't get tickets. Whereas the resellers for major acts know that people don't want to get shut out of Bieber or Taylor Swift or U2 or the Stones and thus exploit that.
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