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Old 07-29-2011, 04:15 PM   #1
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My GA experience. The list is tainted.

Let me start by saying I am a big fan of U2. The last show before 360 that I had the pleasure to see was Elevation.

I had tickets to see their Chicago show earlier this month. I had read all I could and even emailed Joe because I thought he did an excellent blog regarding the GA experience. He was very helpful, and answered my questions very quickly.

I got contact information for Soldier Field. My contact at the stadium was Kevin Wash. He is the Director of Event Services. I asked Mr. Walsh a ton of questions. His response was fast and thorough.

He told me there was no "list" that he would honor. Admission was a first come, first serve basis. Here is one of his emails:
Last concert a fan started a number wrist banding system. That did not work out real well for the fan. We have police ready to issue tickets prior to 6 a m. The only system that we will honor is the system that we will implement. If someone tells you are 79 and you come # 7. You are # 7 in our plan. We have Stadium rules and we follow them. That is the bottom line. If the fan club creates internal drama that is on the fan club and not us. But we will use OUR plan.

This concerned me because I had to trek around Soldier Field to find this illusive list and get on it. I finally found Lia and Romi. I got on the list about 1am on Monday.
Lia told me there would be no check in on Monday and to meet at 4:30 "or thereabout" on the day of show.
I was able to park on Tuesday at 5:00am. That was the earliest the garage opened.

When I went to the parking garage to check in, I was told "You lost your spot". I was furious. I explained that the parking garage didn't open until 5. Lia told me to ask those around me if I could join the line again.

The problem I have is that she told me "Or thereabout". She didn't say "no later than", or "exactly". AND she was the list coordinator. Surely she should have a contingency plan for those that had to park in the garage. I guess I ask too much.

When we were led by security to the official GA line there were 6 people there. SIX. All I heard from others was how they wanted to kick some ass. Really? U2 fans want to kick ass over 6 people? Maybe I was at a Metallica show and didn't know it. Surely these weren't fans of a band that promotes equality and love.
The six that were lined up were probably doing as the venue told them. First come, first serve. Yet because there was a list there were more important people that had superior right to dictate line order.

This started to leave a bad taste in my mouth. I was distraught that the band I love had such uncool fans.

Once we entered the stadium, more chaos. Most of the people ran to the rail. Absolutely, I did too. But when I got there, it looked like a strand of paper dolls. Thirty people with arms a legs spread out were taking up the outer rail. Maybe some were valid "holds". But some, no doubt, were not.

On to Pittsburgh
I decided to show up at Pittsburgh a day earlier. We were there by 3am on Saturday. I was going to start a list, but thought I would sit back and see how it was run, and take the complete experience in.

We walked around the stadium, and saw Arlette. We also saw Mike. Arlette didn't talk to us, but Mike did. He said he was about to start the list. He said he had about 10 other people waiting to sign up on the list. They weren't there yet. When he brought the notebook and pen I asked him what number I would be (I expected him to say 12). He said I would be number 2. He let me sign my name, and wrote "2" on my hand.
We talked for a few minutes about what would be fair, and what's not. He seemed to be honest and I thought would make a great list coordinator.

INCOMING!
Romi and Laura showed up. So did Casey and a few others.
I listened as I heard Romi tell how he wanted to add people that weren't there. He called it a "plus one" system. He said he did it at all the shows.
He tried to add people BEFORE allowing Casey to sign her name. Of course, Casey told him no.
I remember he added Brad to the list. He also added Tom and Michelle.
So ONE guy wanted to add 3 people to a system he called "plus one".

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Above is a pic of the pencil whipping that was about to ensue.

There may have been others in this group to add people, however, Romi was the most adamant and vocal about it.

Within minutes, Mike lost control of the list. It was sad really. Mike is a good guy, and it seemed he had the best of intentions. The little "Napoleons" had to get their proverbial "finger in the pie".

Two to tango...
Of course, what would a cluster f*ck of a list be without two lists?
Let's just add another! While Mike was starting a list on Saturday morning, Lou started a list on Friday. Friday? Three days before the show? Yep. Friday. Three days before the show.

Now we had 2 lists with 27 names on it.
Lou had seven names on hers. The other list had 20.
How many people were there?

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... about 12.

So there are 12 people, and 27 names on a list? Odd...

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Since you may not be able to see the names, here they are:
  1. Lou
  2. Mike
  3. Arlette
  4. Isela
  5. Tracy
  6. Ami
  7. Christine
  8. Tyler
  9. Laura
  10. Roman
  11. Fernando
  12. Kristi
  13. Shawn
  14. Casey
  15. Michelle
  16. Craig
  17. Alison
  18. Anna
  19. Beth
  20. Michelle
  21. Tom
  22. Lacie
  23. Lorie
  24. Tim
  25. Brad
  26. Lisa
  27. Kelly
How can there be 27 people on a list and only 12 actual people there?
Both lists merged. Lou's group had "plus one's". The other list had "plus one's" (unless you count Romi's 3, then it's "plus three").
They didn't even have the courtesy to add the plus one's AFTER the actual people that were there.

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Rewrite the list. And rewrite it.
And hide all evidence that it was rewritten.
Why hide something if it is common knowledge?

My question is...
If someone will "plus one" people 2 days before, what's to stop them from adding names to the list while they work their shift?
Their shift? Yes. The people that sign the list can also volunteer to stay for 3 hour time slots to help keep the list going. What I found odd with this is that in a 3 hour shift some people had 2-5 people sign up. However, some "volunteers" had 10+ sign up. Were they plus ones?

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We talked to the person taking names today and explained how my one friend had to work and couldn't make it down til like 2. They said it wouldn't be a problem if we held her spot in the line...? The whole thing is really starting to confuse me.
Of course they don't mind. YOU are after them in line. It's the people behind you that get short changed. Why should they show up at 5am, and your friend show up at 2pm?

What time is it in the world?
More confusion came when everyone was told to be at the show at 7am.
I guess U2Dave told Lou he wanted them there at 5am. And Lou... well she argued with Dave. Way to go Lou .
So a post was made here about the 5am change. What about the people that show up at 7am? fyi: there were 158 people on the list that were told 7am.
I talked to several "volunteers". Most of them said "f*ck them, they loose their spot".

Here is an interesting video that shows Lou telling a fan how to make the GA line work...

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It must have worked Lou! The friend with number 237 was right beside them.


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And that's what you get when you endure days of "list" drama.

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You deal with the "paper dolls".

I'm not trying to piss people off. I like U2. Do they really need this stigma following them?







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Old 07-29-2011, 05:27 PM   #2
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ha you people are too polite - that just wouldn't fly here in Europe

especially people standing at the rail like that, well they would just get their arms squished!
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i think people should just show up whenever the venue tells them they can. I dont necessarily have a problem with people camping out, though most places prohibit it. Do away with "the list", first come first serve. Once you get your number, then you can go to the bathroom, etc. I dunno, seems fair to me. No holding spots in line for people who show up hours later...not that im an angel...but lets be fair.

I love the band and have enjoyed being up close and personal 7 out of 10 shows over the years. However last time i showed up (STL) and stood a ways back and got one heck of a show and view of the claw in all of its glory.

I can definitely see both sides of this. Is it wrong to assume that people making "the list" and showing up at insane hours like 0530 hours are the same people that see multiple shows?
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:29 PM   #4
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Is it wrong to assume that people making "the list" and showing up at insane hours like 0530 hours are the same people that see multiple shows?

No. That would be right on the money.
In fact, look at the FanCam. See those faces under Bono's mic? They repeat. Romi must be front rail 6 times.
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Jesus fucking christ. (Some of) you people are fucking insane.
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:19 PM   #6
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i think this is why u2 went with the "lottery" or whatever with Vertigo Tour, because even they got sick of this kind of shit. That and the bullshit in Boston where people sat down in the middle of a video shoot. I can see another "lottery" next time around just to get fresh faces up front, or, people who dont camp out for 3 days and start "the list" 2 days prior.
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I cannot get my head around why some of you care so much. There was none of this clique-y bullshit at the Australian shows that I went to. Just absolutely disgusting
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i think this is why u2 went with the "lottery" or whatever with Vertigo Tour, because even they got sick of this kind of shit. That and the bullshit in Boston where people sat down in the middle of a video shoot. I can see another "lottery" next time around just to get fresh faces up front, or, people who dont camp out for 3 days and start "the list" 2 days prior.

It didn't work though. Same faces up front, people lining up even earlier to be guaranteed spots on the outer rail since now a few hundred spots inside the circle were no longer guaranteed. Not defending/condoning....just saying... I think I did GA 9 times on Vertigo and it was still the same ol' same ol'.

Personally I don't think there should have to be a list. People should just show up when they want to/can, get in line, and stay in line. 20 mins to grab a drink or use the restroom is fine, you get to know the people on either side of you and everyone can vouch for each other. Why do people need to leave for hours on end? If you want to sleep in a posh hotel with the band then don't get in line first. If you need three hours to prep yourself for Bono then don't get in line first. Simple.
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I really have a BIG problem with you posting pictures of people here.
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No. That would be right on the money.
In fact, look at the FanCam. See those faces under Bono's mic? They repeat. Romi must be front rail 6 times.
Do you have any idea how long he lined up for those shows? Were you at all of them?? I know him personally, and he can run like a bat out of hell. He didn't start this line drama bullshit.
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You are a piece of work. Lame.

You are also an asshole for doing this.
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Do you have any idea how long he lined up for those shows? Were you at all of them?? I know him personally, and he can run like a bat out of hell. He didn't start this line drama bullshit.
yep. he is not to blame for all this and didn't start it..
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What is being described here stands in pretty sharp contrast to how I believe the list was managed in Toronto. I think Toronto was fair with no shenanigans or plus 1 ideas.

I do think that some similar aspects happened in Montreal though...there was alot of paper flyin around..but I could be mistaken I dont pay that much attention to whether Im 100 or 20 in the line really.

I read something in the Pitts thread that had me scratching my head..person said that they were number 10 or so, and the reason why their two friends who were further down the list got to stand beside said person all night is because saud person ran like a bat outta hell and got to the front first. I took that to mean that their friends came after. If they did, then how did they end up on the rail beside him? I can see behind him, but rail? That seems to indicate spot saving, being referred to here as paper doll..
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I was distraught that the band I love had such uncool fans.
This is pretty much applicable to every band out there. You've heard this old saying haven't you:

I love the band; it's their fans I can't stand.

You'll find all types, from the best to the worst, and everything in between.

Not much fun when you run into the bad ones though.
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Why is he allowed to post all these names and their pics on here?
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