Will The Stage Rotate?
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gvox
Ghost of Love
Well not unless they've figured out how to effectively use the 'light that throws sound' technology they were interested a while back... http://www.audiospotlights.com/directional_sound_intro.html
I think a much more plausible explanation is chrome grilled speaker fronts to match the color scheming and the screens when not lit.
I think a much more plausible explanation is chrome grilled speaker fronts to match the color scheming and the screens when not lit.
KentK
The Fly
Two reasons why I don't see the stage rotating:
1. The large rear walkway looks permanent to me. It is not just for moving equipment onto the stage, otherwise it would just be a set of stairs without the long walkway. Also, they will use forklifts, etc for moving equipment up on stage, not carry it all up the stairs by hand.
2. The main stage is only 5-6 feet off the ground, and since Dallas is not a hunchback, his underground guitar warehouse will be relegated to the rear arc of the main stage, which is another 3-4 feet higher (7 stairs to be exact). If the stage rotated, he would have to tip toe along with Edge's 20+ guitars in tow... not going to happen.
1. The large rear walkway looks permanent to me. It is not just for moving equipment onto the stage, otherwise it would just be a set of stairs without the long walkway. Also, they will use forklifts, etc for moving equipment up on stage, not carry it all up the stairs by hand.
2. The main stage is only 5-6 feet off the ground, and since Dallas is not a hunchback, his underground guitar warehouse will be relegated to the rear arc of the main stage, which is another 3-4 feet higher (7 stairs to be exact). If the stage rotated, he would have to tip toe along with Edge's 20+ guitars in tow... not going to happen.
gvox
Ghost of Love
I think you need to relook at the picture again. The rear walkway doesn't look permanent at all, I could totally see it being rolled back either before the show or right after the band takes the stage.. Also, the center of the stage is higher than 5 feet. Finally, the rear arc is part of the stage area that I think will move, it's pretty obviously part of the 'elevated circle', it forms the back part of it. Therefore the guitar warehouse, if that is where it will be kept, can easily rotate around with the stage without Dallas having to worry.
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
The pictures are a little deceiving but I'm still pretty sure the "elevated" part is still oval...
But I am curious as to why they have that little step, seems like just another hazard for Bono to stumble upon if not looking.
But I am curious as to why they have that little step, seems like just another hazard for Bono to stumble upon if not looking.
gvox
Ghost of Love
Is it really though? When viewed from an 'across' perspective, circles can be deceiving.
Look at this one, more from above:
note that part of the back of the raised part and the attached staircase is in shadows, if you look closer it seems to follow a circular arc rather than oval shape..to me anyways..and the other pics were from the back, which has that third raised area (accessed by the 7 steps, the b-stage if you will). So it's a bit of an illusion looking at it from that side. Looking at it from above at the front, it looks like a circle to me.
if the raised part does not in fact rotate, it begs a few questions: why the outer track for the lighting rigs? They should be stationary if the band is not rotating. Also, why even bother with a second raised area? The stage could simply be the one level plus Larry's riser, and work just fine. There's a purpose to everything...raised stage area with track ringing = moving stage area to me..
KentK
The Fly
Well, the stage is a bit curious with the elevated circle as you say. It certainly looks like it wants to rotate. I think that Dallas' cubby hole would have to be suspended off the ground in some fashion if the stage rotated.
And the rear walkway is just too huge to be temporary. And it's too large to just roll out of the way at showtime-- there is no room to park it anywhere in the pics. Plus it is resting on the elevated flooring. We all agree that is it big and ugly and in the way, but it's there for a reason.
But having said all that, I'm sure that Willie has packed a few surprises for us!
And the rear walkway is just too huge to be temporary. And it's too large to just roll out of the way at showtime-- there is no room to park it anywhere in the pics. Plus it is resting on the elevated flooring. We all agree that is it big and ugly and in the way, but it's there for a reason.
But having said all that, I'm sure that Willie has packed a few surprises for us!
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
I think the raised part is just for the "underworld" nothing more nothing less.
I'm not sure what track you are talking about...
To me it looks like an equal consitant sizing around on the lower area of the lip which tells me the elevated area is an oval... But we'll soon see.
I'm not sure what track you are talking about...
To me it looks like an equal consitant sizing around on the lower area of the lip which tells me the elevated area is an oval... But we'll soon see.
gvox
Ghost of Love
The rear walkway is accordion style though...what if it just moves back a bit ie just enough to 'detach' it from the elevated stage...or folds back towards the stands? Just an idea
gvox
Ghost of Love
I'm not sure what track you are talking about...
To me it looks like an equal consitant sizing around on the lower area of the lip which tells me the elevated area is an oval... But we'll soon see.
There is clearly track laid out and being laid out by workers around the circumference of the stage in the pictures I referenced. The lighting rigs at the back are on wheels on that track.
The more I look at that elevated part the more I'm convinced it is in fact a circle.
I reach an opposite conclusion. The inner track is the same distance from the outer edge of the already-agreed-upon oval stage. If it was circular, it wouldn't be equidistant from the oval shaped larger stage at all points.
KentK
The Fly
Well, that could be. The only reason for pulling back or moving out the rear walkway would be to let GA fill in that area. Otherwise, what is the benefit? And I don't see them quickly setting up barricades and letting fans into an "active" staging area. Plus the band is then cut off for encores.
gvox
Ghost of Love
Diemen what is your opinion, being a photographer? Is it possible that the angle/perspective that these pics have been taken from is tricking us into thinking it's an oval? I'm thinking the size + the photogs position and aspect ratio or whatever is creating the illusion. The further up in the air the pictures are, the more the entire thing outside ring included looks like a circle or pretty close to it to me. Thoughts? Who/when was it decided that this is an oval, or am I just nuts?
I think it's clear that the stage is an oval, seeing as we've seen pictures from the front and from the side and it's clearly narrower along the side. If anything the shots from an angle could make it look more circular than it is, since it's hard to see the depth (especially with the raised portion at the back).
The first batch of pictures with the screen above the stage gave a pretty good view of the difference in width between the front and the side of the stage. Not sure what page those were on, though.
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
I agree.
But now that you mention this it does look like track. BUT keep this in mind. If the stage rotated, the lights would be attached and rotate with the stage, if the elevated part was truly round then the track would be circular as well and not follow the perimeter of the lower ring.
If that is indeed track then I think we're looking at maybe a lighting camera combination that can travel around.
corianderstem
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gvox
Ghost of Love
I think it's clear that the stage is an oval, seeing as we've seen pictures from the front and from the side and it's clearly narrower along the side. If anything the shots from an angle could make it look more circular than it is, since it's hard to see the depth (especially with the raised portion at the back).
The first batch of pictures with the screen above the stage gave a pretty good view of the difference in width between the front and the side of the stage. Not sure what page those were on, though.
I just looked at that picture again, the one that Headache referenced way back. There's something not right with that shot. It looks squashed. I don't know, maybe I'm just crazy. If you take a picture of a circle across the top of it and do any type of resizing at all, it will end up not looking like a circle anymore. I'm not saying that's the case here, but I'd love a truly aerial shot to see...as I said the further up and away the person taking the picture has been, the more the entire thing looks circular to me.
fuck my eyes if that stage isn't oval shaped.
sony
War Child
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No, they will get dizzy way to much
adypole
Refugee
the stage in that pic looks tiny.
(could you use spoilers outside of the claw thread? I shouldn't have seen that picture. )
(could you use spoilers outside of the claw thread? I shouldn't have seen that picture. )
elevated_u2_fan
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you should probably stop reading all of these threads if you ask me becase I'm willing to bet you are reading this right now and therefore spoiler tags don't work for you.
bathiu
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karinlv
War Child
^ lol
Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but I look at it like this: 360 deg.= rotate.
Hence, the 360 tour?
Maybe I'm oversimplifying things, but I look at it like this: 360 deg.= rotate.
Hence, the 360 tour?
ntalwar
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
Some of the earlier quotes from Paul McG, etc. mentioned that the stage would be near midfield and that there will be no behind the stage seats. If no seats are "behind the stage", then the band must play in different directions at some point.
pepokiss
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
If the LARRY part doesn't rotate, then the stage DOES NOT ROTATE... 
last unicorn
Blue Crack Addict
It makes sense. Larry is the only band member who can not move so easily during the show, so they'll move him.
gvox
Ghost of Love
I'm going to stay in the minority and assert that the actual floorspace the band occupies is a 'lazy susan' design like your mom had on the kitchen table. Also, didn't a crew member or someone important say the stage would rotate?
yes... it's called walking.
try it some time.
face one direction, wave to the people... turn around, wave to those people.
it's a miracle of modern science, i tell ya!
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