How will 360 be topped?

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I don't think Arcade Fire is big enough in Europe to receive U2's baton.. it'd likelier be Muse or Snow Patrol or something that's at least known on both continents.

In the absense of other candidates...Coldplay ? They are known on both continents, and certainly the biggest new band that came out of the 00's.
 
Yugh Coldplay.

I'd take Snow Patrol any day. In a wink. plus, Snow Patrol and U2 have this sort of loving relationship going on, and with the crew too. So that would fit too.
 
U2 will not be passing on any baton to anyone else. U2 will continue to push themselves at a higher level for another 10 years.

U2, specifically Bono and Edge want to be on their own planet like the Beatles. Beatles didn't pass any batons and neither will U2.
 
I've always thought that this would be the perfect time for them to call it quits, they're on top of the world now, they're playing stadiums again in America, something that took 15 years to achieve... sold out American shows, even 2 years later they're still going strong.

But I believe should they go on tour again, I believe they'll start small (clubs, theatres, etc) -- and possibly do it. I believe the band just wanted to see if they could pull off stadiums, and they did. They're practically capable of doing ANYTHING.
 
I'd guess they pass on the stadiums next go around. Make the album that they want to make, but take the pressure off it having to be a huge commercial by playing smaller arena shows. Play multiple dates if they need to, or if they dont sell out the first show, move along. And just because it's an arena doesn't mean they can't dress the stage up more than they did for the previous 2 tours. It can still be jaw dropping on a smaller scale
 
The other thing one should remember when it comes to baton passing is that The Police broke up not because they were ready to retire musically, but because they fucking hated each other.

It wasn't a Jim Brown taking his ball and deciding to go home situation.
 
U2, specifically Bono and Edge want to be on their own planet like the Beatles. Beatles didn't pass any batons and neither will U2.


According to a 60 Minute interview with Bono, the Beatles, disappear up their own arses....

I totally stand corrected by any of my comments made. Tis not my wish for U2 to stop doing anything. I don't want them to do a Michael Jordan and retire then come back to retire or any of that shit. At first I was talking of my gut feeling. Then after talking to someone from the U2 camp....I have faith things will continue.

‪U2 Special (2005) part 1/2‬‏ - YouTube

Beatles and arses at 2:00 in the video.
 
U2 will not be passing on any baton to anyone else. U2 will continue to push themselves at a higher level for another 10 years.

U2, specifically Bono and Edge want to be on their own planet like the Beatles.

Maybe, or maybe not. I want to believe the 10 year circle (if nothing else, because 360 was my first U2 show) and I hope they can do it - and finishing the contract with Live Nation - but the medical issues on the last two tours can't be ignored, and they aren't getting any younger. And nothing against Bono's vocals on the last two tours, but it remains very much to be seen how he continues to age in that department. And I have a feeling Larry is getting more tired of touring than the other three. :shrug:

In a way, they already are on their own planet, even if it all ends after 360. How many bands, in the original lineup, have managed worldwide popularity and critical acclaim for three straight decades ? How many have consistenly pushed the envelope of live stadium shows the way U2 has ? How many have managed as many reinventions, yet maintained the mass appeal ?
 
Yugh Coldplay.

I'd take Snow Patrol any day. In a wink. plus, Snow Patrol and U2 have this sort of loving relationship going on, and with the crew too. So that would fit too.

Personally, I don't think there will be a next U2. The music industry just doesn't work that way anymore.

But out of the current bands, if I had to pick a young-ish band that will someday get onto stadiums, Coldplay seems the most likely.
 
Maybe, or maybe not. I want to believe the 10 year circle and I hope they can do it - and finishing the contract with Live Nation - but the medical issues on the last two tours can't be ignored, and they aren't getting any younger.

In a way, they already are on their own planet, even if it all ends after 360. How many bands, in the original lineup, have managed worldwide popularity and critical acclaim for three straight decades ? How many have consistenly pushed the envelope of live stadium shows the way U2 has ? How many have managed as many reinventions, yet maintained the mass appeal ?

One of the medical issues had nothing to do with the actual band members health. So yes, you can ignore that one. Bono's back is the only thing that has happened and it extended the current tour 3 months longer than was originally planned. WOW. U2 are creative and I don't think they want to retire. If they absolutely hated touring and making records, they would retire. I do not see it happening in the near future.

Hell if Keith Richards can still get up on stage and play, anyone can.
 
According to a 60 Minute interview with Bono, the Beatles, disappear up their own arses....

Thanks for the video. Saw it a while ago and forgot about it.

The interview again shows that Bono wants to be THE, not ONE OF the Greatest.

I'm sure most people here have read all the interviews, seen every video, and read the more intimate books as In Conversation with Michka Assayas.

As courteous as Bono is to other up and coming bands like Coldplay, Muse, Arcade Fire, if gave him truth serum and asked if they're even on the same planet he'd say GTFO.

Just as The Beatles transcend music, Bono wants U2 to as well. But, he wants to be bigger and better.

For a long time in the eyes of the public it was Beatles, Stones, U2. It's now Beatles, U2, Stones. Bono wants to topple them.

Can it be done? Probably not, for the same reason nobody in baseball can ever be bigger than Babe Ruth.
 
Maybe, or maybe not. I want to believe the 10 year circle (if nothing else, because 360 was my first U2 show) and I hope they can do it - and finishing the contract with Live Nation - but the medical issues on the last two tours can't be ignored, and they aren't getting any younger. And nothing against Bono's vocals on the last two tours, but it remains very much to be seen how he continues to age in that department. And I have a feeling Larry is getting more tired of touring than the other three. :shrug:

In a way, they already are on their own planet, even if it all ends after 360. How many bands, in the original lineup, have managed worldwide popularity and critical acclaim for three straight decades ? How many have consistenly pushed the envelope of live stadium shows the way U2 has ? How many have managed as many reinventions, yet maintained the mass appeal ?

I think their touring is only a piece of the overall puzzle of overall greatness. I believe to achieve what they're trying to they need another Joshua Tree sized album combined with Bono's constant pushing on all front of media.
 
Also, in addition to U2 not retiring, there will never be another world conquering band like The Police or U2 again, music is so fragmented nowadays, U2 truly is the last worldwide stadium artist.
 
One of the medical issues had nothing to do with the actual band members health. So yes, you can ignore that one. Bono's back is the only thing that has happened and it extended the current tour 3 months longer than was originally planned. WOW. U2 are creative and I don't think they want to retire. If they absolutely hated touring and making records, they would retire. I do not see it happening in the near future.

Hell if Keith Richards can still get up on stage and play, anyone can.

They didn't ignore the medical issue on Vertigo tour. It delayed the opening leg.
 
That was Edge's daughter. Hardly related to the band members' health there.. plus Bono was on heavy medication during the EU leg of the Vertigo tour, also for his back. But they did not cancel the tour or delay it for that.
 
Hi everyone, I was recently at the Montreal show and like many of you, I was euphoric afterwards for 2 days. It was absolutely amazing, not only because of the bands performance, but because of the phenomenal stage design/screen/lights.

Now I can't help but wonder:

1) How will 360 be topped (by U2 or anyone else), or will it even be topped?
2) Will U2 even try to top it, or will they do the stripped down Elevation type shows for the rest of their career to take a safer route?
3) If/when they play stadiums, will 360 viewing be standard, or will they resort back to the norm of not selling seats behind the stage?

Obviously there are no hard answers on this, even U2 doesn't know. But I want to see what fellow U2 fans think about this. Prior to seeing the 360 tour, in my mind I always thought that intimate shows in arenas > giant stadium shows, and was even disappointed when they announced a stadium tour. But all of that has changed now, and I feel that 360 was even better than Elevation/Vertigo.

I can't imagine in my mind how they would be able to top "the Claw", but then again, I never imagined that happening to ZOOTV.

Now this is silly, but what about other bands? Will the Rolling Stones, Green Day, or anyone else even attempt at doing something as spectacular? IMO 360 blew the Stones' Bigger Bang tour out of the water, and given that the Stones are the only other band besides U2 who spend so much time and money on stage design, I'm curious to see how their next tour will be (it is rumored to happen next year), although I'm not expecting much.

Personally, I don't like the claw much at all and think it's already been "topped" by about 10 other productions I can think of...Zoo TV...Pop...various Stones/Floyd/waters tours etc.

The Claw is a big gimmick that is false advertising. The show isn't really "360" in that a 3rd of the seats are behind the stage. "360" implies you can see everything - in fact 15,000 people a night see nothing but Bono's ass for the whole show...which I guess is nice if you like that sort of thing...but still.

For the life of me, I can't understand why they didn't put this stage in the CENTER of the field and rotate it or the players. Makes no sense to me.

The Claw itself...once you get past the size...it really isn't very interesting at all.

And lastly, the setlist in 2009 absolutely blew...but it's much improved now so i'm going to see it again tonight.

It's a decent show and it's made a ton of money, but for me this is U2's worst tour in ages. Moving back into stadiums was NOT an improvement for the fan experience, and the Claw itself is an overhyped gimmick.

Nothing to top here, in my opinion.
 
Also, in addition to U2 not retiring, there will never be another world conquering band like The Police or U2 again, music is so fragmented nowadays, U2 truly is the last worldwide stadium artist.

Those differences in discovery/listening and the resulting fragmentation makes everything different, but I don't think it's any different for a band like Coldplay. They're in a pretty similar situation to where they would have been if this were 2001 or 1991. And that would apply to pretty much all of the current bands mentioned in here (except Arcade Fire).

Coldplay could do stadiums in plenty of markets right now. But I can't see them getting too much bigger than they are already, and that's really got nothing to do with differences in the market. Same with Muse. They've got room to grow in the US, to match where they're at elsewhere, but there's definitely a ceiling there, and they're pretty much hitting it now. Again, the difference is probably with Arcade Fire, in terms of potential room to grow. Where they're at in a few years will be pretty interesting. Could be about the same. Could be much, MUCH bigger. Could very well be split up.

But all this baton talk is bullshit. And there's no point comparing bands to 360 era U2. The U2 we have now is the product and culmination of a 30 year career. Of course some decade old (or less) band isn't going to be suddenly able to bust out a 360 tour. The question would be, can any band reach a Joshua Tree through ZooTV era U2 type size and reach? That's certainly not impossible, but I don't think any of the names thrown around in here will do it.
 
Coldplay...?? :doh:

They are too busy ripping off other ppls music re: Joe Satriani and Cat Stevens. Pls!

Anyone that thinks Coldplay can take over from U2 clearly isn't washing the fruit before they eat it. :huh:
 
For the life of me, I can't understand why they didn't put this stage in the CENTER of the field and rotate it or the players. Makes no sense to me.

The Claw itself...once you get past the size...it really isn't very interesting at all.

And lastly, the setlist in 2009 absolutely blew...but it's much improved now so i'm going to see it again tonight.

It's a decent show and it's made a ton of money, but for me this is U2's worst tour in ages. Moving back into stadiums was NOT an improvement for the fan experience, and the Claw itself is an overhyped gimmick.

Nothing to top here, in my opinion.

This is why I'd like to see them tour again with the CLAWs. I think they could make them even more interesting with things (video screens?) on each leg and something more on the top. The screen was fascinating and a techno marvel, but it could be removed to make way for something else (an elevated B-stage?) or some other sort of screen(s?).
And, put the Claw in the middle of the field. Make GA a 360 experience.

:twocents:
 
This is why I'd like to see them tour again with the CLAWs. I think they could make them even more interesting with things (video screens?) on each leg and something more on the top. The screen was fascinating and a techno marvel, but it could be removed to make way for something else (an elevated B-stage?) or some other sort of screen(s?).
And, put the Claw in the middle of the field. Make GA a 360 experience.

:twocents:

They're already selling the Claws to permanent venues around the world, I guess as tourist destinations?

Personally I think the claw was enough for one tour. It wasn't used anywhere near it's potential and I'd rather see something fresh next tour.

Actually, I miss having some sort of backdrop- a screen or whatever and don't love the 360 thing. Feels like it sort of disperses the energy too much.

But, I will suspend negative thought and enjoy the hell out of the show tonight.
 
But all this baton talk is bullshit. And there's no point comparing bands to 360 era U2. The U2 we have now is the product and culmination of a 30 year career. Of course some decade old (or less) band isn't going to be suddenly able to bust out a 360 tour. The question would be, can any band reach a Joshua Tree through ZooTV era U2 type size and reach? That's certainly not impossible, but I don't think any of the names thrown around in here will do it.

This is right on, but I'd go a bit further and add in the massive resurgence of the past 10 years as well.

Jeez, how many bands have a good 5 year run and are suddenly proclaimed bigger and better than U2?

It's like every few years you hear about the next Michael Jordan. Sure

This year it was LeBron James who is better than Jordan. GTFO. :doh:
 
Proof the band arent even THINKING about calling it quite, Willie is now thinking about the NEXT tour:

"I’ve been decompressing a little and allowing myself to slow down a bit. Tours don’t end gradually, they just stop dead one day, so if at all possible it is helpful to reduce velocity before slamming into the brick wall. I had lunch with a colleague who specialises in LED technology and spent a while musing over future projects. Naturally, we’re already thinking about ‘next time round’ and the task is always to imagine not what’s possible now, but what might be possible in a couple of years’ time. There are larger questions about what kind of show U2 might want to do next, and whether another technology-based show would be at all appealing, but its always interesting to do the research. I’m very proud of the 360 show, not just the technology and architecture but also the breadth of what U2 have been able to perform over the past couple of years. The current show references every single U2 album, including Passengers and a movie soundtrack, which is pretty good going for a band with this much history. What they’ll do next is anybody’s guess at this juncture."
 

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