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Old 05-09-2009, 10:00 PM   #1
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I have a Canon Powershot S5 and I can't get a clear picture to save my life. I try taking pictures on Auto and Manual and they always look grainy. I was thinking about upgrading to a Nikon D40 or the D60. Anybody have any opinions on those models? Or do you think if I get some lenses the Canon will take clearer shots?
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Old 05-10-2009, 04:50 PM   #4
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I'd get the DSLR rather than add on to the Canon. You will be much happier with the results. I've been shooting dogs with the DSLR for almost a year and I'm still in a honeymoon period!

The D40x is great b/c it's cheap and small, probably not much or any bigger than your S5 depending on what lens you use. I can't afford nice lenses like Julie and her friends, my favorite is the 55-200mm VR which you can find for less than $200. If you shoot at the right time of day and position yourself in the right spot relative to the sun, there's no need to spend thousands on the camera or lens, the shots will improve 100% over the point-and-shoot (not b/c you're doing anything wrong, but the technology is so much better for what you want to shoot).
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:52 AM   #6
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I have a Canon Powershot S5 and I can't get a clear picture to save my life.
my fiance has that camera, actually. i just have the s2 and my photos are fine, though i've never messed with any of my settings and always take photos in auto mode so that's no help. i'll see if he has any tips
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I have a Canon Powershot S5 and I can't get a clear picture to save my life. I try taking pictures on Auto and Manual and they always look grainy. I was thinking about upgrading to a Nikon D40 or the D60. Anybody have any opinions on those models? Or do you think if I get some lenses the Canon will take clearer shots?
Can you post the shot settings for these? Zoombrowser software should display them. Specifically ISO, aperture, shutter speed. The first one looks the most grainy. I don't think you can interchange lenses on the S5. It looks like flash was not used, so maybe the higher ISO of the shots due to low light is adding noise. The S5, btw, has noticeable detail loss starting at ISO 200 according to reviews. That is considered noisy. It may be time to upgrade to a decent DSLR.
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Pic #1: iso 1600; shutter speed 1/20; AV 5
Pic #2: iso 400; shutter speed 1/250; AV 8
Pic #3: iso 800; shutter speed 1/40; AV 3.5

Pictures 1 and 3 were taken at the same time. The only difference, besides the settings, is one dog was on the left side of the room and the other dog was on the right.
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Picture 1: Shooting Mode: Aperture-Priority AE
Pictue 2: Shooting Mode Sports
Picture 3: Shooting Mode Sports
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Pic #1: iso 1600; shutter speed 1/20; AV 5
Pic #2: iso 400; shutter speed 1/250; AV 8
Pic #3: iso 800; shutter speed 1/40; AV 3.5

Pictures 1 and 3 were taken at the same time. The only difference, besides the settings, is one dog was on the left side of the room and the other dog was on the right.
The high ISOs explain the noise. Try ISO 100 or 200 in a different mode (and maybe on a tripod or surface) for the still shots. Unfortunately that camera isn't designed for low light or action - it will give a high ISO/grainy image. See the ISO results here: DCRP Review: Canon PowerShot S5 IS

A DSLR will generally give much better high ISO/low noise performance. For example, my Canon 5D Mark II produces very clean images up to ISO 3200. I'd research and look at image samples of ISO 400, 800, 1600 for any dslr you're intersted in.
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Shooting Mode Auto
Tv (Shutter Speed) 1/1600
Av (Aperture Value) 3.5
ISO Speed 100(High ISO Auto)
Flash Off
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Shooting Mode Auto
Tv (Shutter Speed) 1/60
Av (Aperture Value) 2.7
ISO Speed 250(High ISO Auto)
Flash On
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The high ISOs explain the noise. Try ISO 100 or 200 in a different mode (and maybe on a tripod or surface) for the still shots. Unfortunately that camera isn't designed for low light or action - it will give a high ISO/grainy image. See the ISO results here: DCRP Review: Canon PowerShot S5 IS

A DSLR will generally give much better high ISO/low noise performance. For example, my Canon 5D Mark II produces very clean images up to ISO 3200. I'd research and look at image samples of ISO 400, 800, 1600 for any dslr you're intersted in.
Thanks for the help!!
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The Shelties are cute BTW.

I have the Nikon D40X; I think it's called the D60 now. It is my first DSLR, after several digital point-n-shoots. I'm quite happy with it. I do some semi-professional shots with it for work (I'm far from a professional)--buildings, building products and components for trade magazines or client use.

It's nice to have a pocket-sized digital camera, too. I don't know what all you want to photograph, but consider that you might not always want to carry around the DSLR for pictures.


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Thanks! I'm still debating between the D40 or the D60.
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