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Old 07-03-2015, 12:16 AM   #46
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Have you seen the movie? I mean, I feel like I could have easily kicked his ass, he was not eating right.
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Old 07-03-2015, 12:40 AM   #47
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Whatever, he's Steve McQueen.




I haven't read the book but I enjoyed the film. Leisurely paced but still interesting.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:38 AM   #48
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Papillon is very good. Feels a bit dated, more in the vein of a big budget 60s adventure flick than I was expecting, but you can't go wrong with Hoffman and McQueen. I dug it.
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Old 07-03-2015, 01:59 AM   #49
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My favourite Stone after JFK is Salvador. James Woods is an ideal protagonist for an Oliver Stone movie.

I wouldn't say The Doors is terrible because it has Val Kilmer's performance going for it. But it's the first time where Stone's excessive style and flashiness hurt the story. On the other hand, due to his unique editing choices, you can always tell an Oliver Stone movie, which I guess is every director's dream. It's just that his movies are more than often drowned in all kinds of terrible. There's lack of subtlety in style which can be a good thing, but lack of subtlety in writing is a completely different story. Even Talk Radio starts to get way over-the-top by its climax.

In any case, he's more miss than hit for me.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:34 AM   #50
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Well the blame for Talk Radio's script would rest with Bogosian. It's based on his own play, he co-wrote the screenplay, and starred.

Also, not sure what you mean by over-the-top, but it was based on a real-life incident.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:39 AM   #51
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I'm aware of Bogosian writing the script and the play. I'm not talking about the final final scene, but the antics of his character as the climax comes in start to get old, and Stone's sense of pacing and of mercilessly burying the point into the mind of the viewer is symptomatic of his later work in the 90s and 00s. Case in point being Natural Born Killers - a film I like more than most but which does have its problems.
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It's awfully tough to nail down a Top Ten. Here goes (in no order):

- The Godfather
- The Godfather Part 2
- Platoon
- Full Metal Jacket
- The Departed
- Kill Bill Volume 1
- Kill Bill Volume 2
- Pulp Fiction
- Clerks
- Slingblade
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The only Oliver Stone movies I've seen are The Doors (garbage) and Wall Street (pretty good but not worth the hype). I own Platoon but haven't seen it. Really, really meh on Stone as a filmmaker, but maybe Platoon and JFK will turn that around.
they should do, easily his best two films, you will love them i'm sure.
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:28 PM   #54
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The Empire Strikes Back
Apocalypse Now
2001 A Space Odyssey
Temple Of Doom
The Great Escape
The Sound Of Music
Zodiac
Return Of The King
Interstellar
Vertigo

In any given day, the Kubrick, Hitchcock, Nolan, and Fincher movies could swap out for others by that particular director.
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All of your lists are terrible.
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All of your lists are terrible.
I'm imagining you saying that like Charles Barkley.

What kind of godless heathen doesn't like The Sound of Music? The hills are alive, for Christ's Sake!!


Go back to exhorting others to fornicate with baby bears.
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I was jk
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I was jk
Shit, I should have slapped a at the end. I figured the laughing smiley at the top was a dead give away. I knew you were kidding.
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I do love The Sound of Music, btw.
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I'm imagining you saying that like Charles Barkley.



What kind of godless heathen doesn't like The Sound of Music? The hills are alive, for Christ's Sake!!





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I once had a female co-worker who said she loved movies with musical montages showing growth and self-discovery in their characters.

I said I loved movies where Nazis are the villains

We both agreed that Sound of Music was a movie that satisfied both our requirements.


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