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Old 07-02-2015, 06:17 AM   #16
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Why is that? I've been a big movie buff all my life (it's basically how I learned English for one), but I'm hardly that "avant-garde" or left-field.
Mostly I was surprised because I've seen at least four of those films for the first time in the past 6-12 months. Just a funny coincidence, considering I had no idea what was going to be on the list. Since I really like everything there, I'll be quick to see the remaining two. Ashley is on the cusp of a Bunuel kick anyway.

As for what's left on everyone else's lists:

Oregoropa: 1 (JFK)
Laz: 2 (Reds, The English Patient)
Lance: 4 (Trouble in Paradise, The Errand Boy, Through the Olive Trees, Flight of the Red Balloon)
Ashley: 0
JUSTinPUSHPLAY: 1 (Vanilla Sky)
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Everyone needs to watch more Lubitsch
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:50 AM   #18
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Hawks too for that matter
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Mildly surprised that I've seen 8 of your films, djerdap. Still haven't seen Come and See or Viridiana. I know I've been kicking around the idea of seeing the former for a while now, but the time hasn't presented itself.

Also I think it's great that Mulholland Dr. and Persona are both on your list. They have a lot in common. 3 Women and Celine And Julie Go Boating also seem to take inspiration from Persona in some ways. You could make one hell of a marathon out of those four.

Did you note the similarities between Mulholland Dr and C&JGB? Lynch claimed not to have seen it but I found that hard to believe.

I've actually never seen Altman's 3 Women (probably the last of his major works I'm missing), but I just bought a used Criterion Blu-ray for $12 so I'll be checking it out soon. Seems right up my alley.
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Mostly I was surprised because I've seen at least four of those films for the first time in the past 6-12 months. Just a funny coincidence, considering I had no idea what was going to be on the list. Since I really like everything there, I'll be quick to see the remaining two. Ashley is on the cusp of a Bunuel kick anyway.

As for what's left on everyone else's lists:

Oregoropa: 1 (JFK)
You're going to have a lot of fun with JFK. What a phenomenal work.
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Yeah JFK is extraordinary
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JFK is indeed great. One of the best editing jobs I've ever seen.

Its "history" is a disaster, but even that adds a bit of trashy quality to it.
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Its history is open theorizing, attempting to show all the forces that were against the president at the time, and who had something to gain by his removal. It's a Choose-Your-Own-Conspiracy kind of thing. Stone didn't feel that's how it all legitimately went down anyway, describing it as a "counter-myth" to what he felt was a phony official story.

The Warren Commission isn't exactly some respectable work of reporting, either.
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Stone's counter-myth statement sounds like an excuse after the fact. You're gonna counter the bullshit by making up more bullshit? Yeah, that makes sense.

I don't think it's a choose-your-own-conspiracy kind of movie either. There is hardly any irony in the film, the theories are being taken very seriously and it goes a long way in making Jim Garrison a modern American hero, which is extremely debateable.

Doesn't the evidence point now more than ever that Oswald was indeed the killer, the Warren Commission notwithstanding?

It's not like the agenda of the film is a flaw anyway. I love the movie, it's pure unapologetic fiction and all the better for it. Besides, for somebody who dislikes Oliver Stone's politics, it's an additional plus that I like the movie so much.
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It strikes me as a film more concerned with process than actual facts, which is probably why it's so compulsively watchable.
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JFK is indeed great. One of the best editing jobs I've ever seen.

Its "history" is a disaster, but even that adds a bit of trashy quality to it.
This is my favorite moment in possibly all of Interference history. Low key, JFK is one of my favorite movies, but I'm always too embarrassed to admit it, because people I've met in life treat it like absolute trash. I've been trying forever to get Travis to watch it with me. I hope you all just convinced him.

One of my favorite monologues ever, too. I love Kevin Costner, a lot.
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Back and to the right.
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I'll also admit that that movie and Conspiracy Theory kinda fucked me up for life. But that's a thing unto itself. But that's because I saw both movies when I was very young. My dad and I used to watch JFK together like that was a normal thing for a 7 year old to do. I saw Conspiracy Theory not long after, and X-Files was also a thing at the time, so I just kinda became one of those people for a long time. I still have residual conspiracy nut moments from time to time, but I'm not as convinced as I was when I was young.
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Back and to the right.
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Isn't it "to the left"?
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