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Old 09-08-2008, 11:22 PM   #151
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...and the "Western" category that would probably take over, i.e. "Unforgiven".
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:23 PM   #152
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I think the LOTR trilogy is a hell of a lot of fun. Especially Fellowship.
I think you hit the nail in the head with the fun part, great movies...but not on my top list.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:24 PM   #153
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...and the "Western" category that would probably take over, i.e. "Unforgiven".

Oh shit, I actually caught the last 20 minutes of Unforgiven on TV last night. That is a badass ending right there.
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:24 PM   #154
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For the record, I do LIKE LOTR, I'm just not as big a fan because of the direction, that's all
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Old 09-08-2008, 11:25 PM   #155
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Clint Eastwood, ftw.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:14 AM   #156
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Unfortunately for Jackson and the cinema-loving world at large, films are special in that they rely heavily on purely visual elements of storytelling, not meaning just art direction or production design either (Oh look how hairy the hobbits' feet are!). I don't think you'll find many people who think The Lord of the Rings novels aren't a damn good story, I'm not saying they aren't, but as a filmmaker, Jackson's role is to convey the story elements and themes of the material through all the channels with which cinema communicates to its audience. And I think he failed pretty miserably in most of those regards.

A faithful adaptation of the Tolkien's novels into a script doesn't just magically make a great film, and cinematic storytelling involves a lot more than that. Hell, the script is probably at much as 15% of what contributes to the expression of a film's core material, tops.
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Okay, I didn't think of a list. Here are 20 or something off the head.

La Strada
Angels With Dirty Faces
No Man's Land
M
The Jerk
Sherlock Jr.
Big Trouble in Little China
Blotto
Horse Feathers
Pubic Enemy
Footlight Parade
Arsenic and Old Lace
The Maltese Falcon
Rebel Without a Cause
Porco Rosso
Fritz the Cat
Ed Wood
42nd Street
Airplane!/Flying High
and like any of the Road To movies :x
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:58 AM   #158
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Also, I've never seen a shittier use of CG in a "major film" than the Ghost Army in Return of the King. Dear God.
No, I'm sorry but that dubious distinction has to go to I Am Legend...

I loved LOTR but then I loved the books and am a major fantasy geek, so there...
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Old 09-09-2008, 03:04 PM   #159
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No, I'm sorry but that dubious distinction has to go to I Am Legend...

I loved LOTR but then I loved the books and am a major fantasy geek, so there...
That's a good one. Damn. Those vampire things + the retarded ending really killed that movie for me. The first hour is excellent thouh.
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I could have put up with the retarded ending if the CG didn't look like a videogame...
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I could have put up with the retarded ending if the CG didn't look like a videogame...
An N64 game, at that.

Bonnie, awesome to see some Big Trouble in Little China on your list. It's one of the most entertaining movies I've ever seen and all of the Kurt Russell/John Carpenter pairings were terrific.
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life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Juno
Keeping The Faith
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Home Alone I and II
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That's a good one. Damn. Those vampire things + the retarded ending really killed that movie for me. The first hour is excellent thouh.
You don't think God leading them to safety is a good ending? Heathen.
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You don't think God leading them to safety is a good ending? Heathen.
Perhaps it was a message from his therapist.
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