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Old 08-07-2008, 01:50 PM   #181
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The Black Freighter IS a distraction, but it contains a subtext that parallels the main plot. I skimmed it the first time I read it, but when I reread it the section carried much more weight.
although I wouldn't call it a distraction. I think it has a significant role in the book contributing not only in character parallels but with the beautiful flow of story in words and imagery. Page 17 of Fearful Symmetry aka CH.5 is just one example of the genius of Moore and Gibbons. Although, I can see how on the initial reading, it could be overlooked. Much of the appeal of Watchmen as a great piece of literature is its layers which do not present themselves until after multiple or very meticulous readings.

I think Watchmen would have been a weak novel. Comic books can tell stories in ways which cannot be duplicated in any other medium.
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The Black Freighter IS a distraction, but it contains a subtext that parallels the main plot. I skimmed it the first time I read it, but when I reread it the section carried much more weight.
Initially, it was a bit interesting.

And yes, I did get it was a parallel story of one man on a trek against evil.

And the layers, a kid sitting on a stoop reading a comic book about destruction, while all the time being oblivious to the destruction all around him

I even thought of a 50 year old man sitting in different beach front, fast food joints, drinking coffee, reading a graphic novel about destruction, being oblivious to the destruction around him.



the black freighter,
starts ok, then goes nowhere, except as the device mentioned,
once established, that was enough.
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although I wouldn't call it a distraction. I think it has a significant role in the book contributing not only in character parallels but with the beautiful flow of story in words and imagery. Page 17 of Fearful Symmetry aka CH.5 is just one example of the genius of Moore and Gibbons. Although, I can see how on the initial reading, it could be overlooked. Much of the appeal of Watchmen as a great piece of literature is its layers which do not present themselves until after multiple or very meticulous readings.

I think Watchmen would have been a weak novel. Comic books can tell stories in ways which cannot be duplicated in any other medium.
reading should be fun
and even challenging at times

it should not require multiple or very meticulous readings.
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reading should be fun
and even challenging at times

it should not require multiple or very meticulous readings.
I disagree. Some reading can be fun just as some tv shows, movies or other forms of entertainment can be fun too. But sometimes, repeat viewing or reading is a pleasurable activity for many people because it enhances their first experience i.e The Dark Knight, Harry Potter books, whatever

Literature is perhaps the most analyzed and studied form of entertainment ever. People have made careers out of becoming experts of writers and literary periods.

You didn't like it, fine by me. I think you are correct in your self-assessment of not reading any more graphic novels if you are unhappy with this one.
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reading should be fun
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it should not require multiple or very meticulous readings.
James Joyce just called me laughing.
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Old 08-07-2008, 05:50 PM   #186
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James Joyce just called me laughing.
I remember pounding through

Portrait

it was work for me

then there was this huge pay off
and I was glad I rode it out


see that's it

there needs to be a pay off

no pay off for 'black freighter'.

and true, not that much work
but effort should have at least a minimal payoff
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You didn't like it, fine by me. I think you are correct in your self-assessment of not reading any more graphic novels if you are unhappy with this one.
like it ok

gave it a C+

said I like the story
and I am looking forward to film adaption


and yes,
I am not the right audience for graphics or comics


I figured I would give the best one a shot.

I don't regret it.

I just would not recommend for the uninitiated.
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like it ok

gave it a C+

said I like the story
and I am looking forward to film adaption


and yes,
I am not the right audience for graphics or comics


I figured I would give the best one a shot.

I don't regret it.

I just would not recommend for the uninitiated.
It may be generally regarded as the best, but there may still be one out there that you would like more, you know? Not trying to push this on you, just sayin'.
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Give it up, smut peddler.
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It may be generally regarded as the best, but there may still be one out there that you would like more, you know? Not trying to push this on you, just sayin'.

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Walt Disney would have loved that book.
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those funny guys

won a Pulitzer Prize, too.
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I have read Maus.

It is excellent. I think you'd enjoy it.

And I really don't like this medium at all.
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