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Old 12-15-2012, 05:27 PM   #106
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So... any thoughts yet on The Hobbit: An Unnecessary Journey?


Just saw the IMAX 3D HFR version.

I enjoyed it mostly, as long as I knew what I was getting into beforehand. I'm sure I have more to say on this but for now.... I'm just kinda... huh. I understand the need for this cast to want to reunite, but cameos would have sufficed. It was way over the top and the art suffered for it. Sigh. Some first comments:

All the Lord of the Rings nods... totally out of place. I never enjoyed seeing Frodo again less.

Galladriel? Go. Away.

Thranduil and his Magnificent Reindeer STEED. OMG, he brought the entire Elf Army out to toss his hair and shun you Dwarf BETCHES. LOL.

And...

Who is Prometheorc?
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more than one reviewer is using this line as the take away


“I believe the worst is behind us.”
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:37 AM   #108
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more than one reviewer is using this line as the take away


“I believe the worst is behind us.”
That, would be good.

And I think my favorite part of the movie might have been the last approx. 30 seconds. (Won't spoil that, though it really isn't a spoiler, it was just cool.)
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:29 AM   #109
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The Radagast detour was odd and unnecessary. I can't for the life of me fathom why Peter Jackson decided to add a character that doesn't physically appear in the book and weighed down the pace, yet he did decide to excise Tom Bombadil completely from FOTR who WAS a real character. Also found Freeman a little bland. His Arthur Dent is almost identical to his Bilbo Baggins. I can see why they chose him, but his range leaves a lot to be desired. What a damn, damn shame Ian Holm was too old to don the furry feet again. His Bilbo was note perfect.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:05 PM   #110
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The Radagast detour was odd and unnecessary. I can't for the life of me fathom why Peter Jackson decided to add a character that doesn't physically appear in the book and weighed down the pace, yet he did decide to excise Tom Bombadil completely from FOTR who WAS a real character. Also found Freeman a little bland. His Arthur Dent is almost identical to his Bilbo Baggins. I can see why they chose him, but his range leaves a lot to be desired. What a damn, damn shame Ian Holm was too old to don the furry feet again. His Bilbo was note perfect.
Agreed on Bilbo. Freeman's character just didn't quite capture him like Holm did. There was something off in the character and maybe it had to do with writing too which I don't understand because yes, Ian Holm was so spot on! I must say I didn't mind seeing him at the beginning because he's so great as Bilbo and the opening narration was nice and one LOTR similarity that I enjoyed.
Frodo made me wonder where the audience canned "awwww" track was. I even felt Gollum was a little TOO much Andy Serkis. And Rivendell with Galadriel and the glowy lights and heavenly Elf choir music served no purpose, except to shine the glowy lights and heavenly Elf choir over Kate B. again.
Sadly so many things it seemed Jackson got right in LOTR, felt wrong in Hobbit. I even liked the Goblins the way they were portrayed in the caves so much more in LOTR. It really felt blatantly obvious that too much time spent on things here soured them. We didn't need 3 movies for this one nice little book and it shows.

Like I said before though, I kind of knew all this going in, so though it disappointed me to see it all pan out like we feared, I still enjoyed it for what it is.

And damn, Smaug has the chance to be soooo good... I hope he doesn't mess that up too.
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The Radagast detour was odd and unnecessary. I can't for the life of me fathom why Peter Jackson decided to add a character that doesn't physically appear in the book and weighed down the pace, yet he did decide to excise Tom Bombadil completely from FOTR who WAS a real character.
Had Tom Bombadil been included, who knows if the mainstream audience would have gone with it, or just rolled their eyes at the rest of the film.

One of my least favorite parts of the novel, and a very, very smart choice to remove it from a film that was by no means a guaranteed hit at the box office.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:04 PM   #112
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So... any thoughts yet on The Hobbit: An Unnecessary Journey?


Just saw the IMAX 3D HFR version.

I enjoyed it mostly, as long as I knew what I was getting into beforehand. I'm sure I have more to say on this but for now.... I'm just kinda... huh. I understand the need for this cast to want to reunite, but cameos would have sufficed. It was way over the top and the art suffered for it. Sigh. Some first comments:

All the Lord of the Rings nods... totally out of place. I never enjoyed seeing Frodo again less.

Galladriel? Go. Away.

Thranduil and his Magnificent Reindeer STEED. OMG, he brought the entire Elf Army out to toss his hair and shun you Dwarf BETCHES. LOL.

And...

Who is Prometheorc?
 
The good : Bilbo, Gandalf, Gollum (movie especially kicked up a notch after he appeared), Thorin. The familiar musical themes from LOTR were nice. Great Erebor intro.

The bad : rest of the Dwarves minus Balin. Instead of more distinct personalities we got virtual carbon copys of Gimli's clown portrayal in LOTR. And the unnecessary Elf army cameo brings back to mind the unnecessary Elf army scenes at Helm's deep. Much less great Shire old Bilbo-Frodo loooong intro.

The very, very bad : wacko hippie aka Radagast. Makes you feel good about them NOT going for Bombadil. Also all the cameos from LOTR. And is The Defiler supposed to be scary ? And the giant Toad-Orc is even worse.

The book is too short for this and it shows. That said, where's Mirkwood ? Thranduil's palace ? Beorn ?
And not showing Smaug in full, just once, feels like a rip off.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:00 PM   #113
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Surprised by all the complaints. I just enjoyed going back to Middle Earth so the length didn't bother me at all. It's also been a long time since I read the book so that might've helped.
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I'm actually looking forward to going back and watching it again, and try not to be too critical. I loved the final scene and hope it means good things to come, as right now I'm betting on movie #2 being the best of the three.

I do have one more thought on what was mentioned before about Martin Freeman's Bilbo.... Yes he was a little bland when compared to Ian Holm. At times he was almost a second thought to what was going on, instead of the main character. BUT, I think this is partly the fault of the writing. He almost wasn't given enough to do. There was too much focus on other crap, (like wtf prometheorc, as I call him ) But again that is related to stretching a small book into 3 movies. Still though, Bilbo should have been more important here.

Anyway, next viewing will be just regular 2D 24 fps and should be good.
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Never read any of the books. So I am only judging this as a main stream movie.
I think it was good. A lot of it seemed familiar. I thought I may have seen some of the scenes or story before. But that must just be the similarities to some of Jaskson's LOTRs.

There was a family sitting behind me. A father with a 6 year old on his lap. The occasional talking did not bother me. Especially after Sandy Hook.
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Who is Prometheorc?
Azog the Defiler ?

Azog - Lord of the Rings Wiki
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number one at the box office again this weekend

congrats to Jackson, this is actually a pretty good movie, it could have gone so much worse, lets hope the next two don't make me regret this praise
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This made me laugh.

More Hobbit | Video | Saturday Night Live | NBC
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Saw the Hobbit over the holidays and really liked it. It maybe felt a little too linear whereas there were multiple story lines going on in the LOTR trilogy, but maybe it's a little unfair to say that about the first film of a trilogy.
The creatures, however, blow the LOTR creatures out of the water. The designs felt a little more Creature Shop-esque and fun, which was nice. Particularly the trolls (loved that scene). I also like that the goblins were cg (something I normally wouldnt say). In LOTR, having human actors for all the species made everything feel a bit samey. The goblins were a nice change from that.
Azog being CG was unnecessary though. He wasn't completely convincing and seemed more like an attempt at making a new Gollum than a necessary digital effect. There was nothing about his physique that kept him from being a man in practical, makeup effects. But overall, great creature quotient
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