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Old 03-15-2016, 01:44 AM   #46
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Like Lincoln except a totally fictional world
It either has its own internal reality or it doesn't.

Anyhow, it's not like I'd die in a ditch over it, Elba is a very good actor and I've no doubt he'll give it his own spin. It's a filmed Stephen King adaptation so the cards are stacked against it from the start.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:10 AM   #47
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No reason it can't still is my point. They can change around the material and world of the books however they please.
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Old 03-15-2016, 09:15 AM   #48
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But when one of the 4 main characters is already black, and as Stammer said above, because there's a lot of pertinent material about race in the story, making Roland black as well removes some of that conflicting/contrasting dynamic.
I think everyone is overestimating how important the white Roland/black Detta racial dynamic is to the whole thing. I mean don't get me wrong it's huge for those two characters but a small part of the story on the whole and with this they can easily just change the tambre of that racial conflict now between two black characters, one of whom could be written in a way which the world he comes from is post-racial or something and is driven into contact with an extremely racially charged character from this other time and place. Just one way to slant it anyway, they could do anything if they decide to be creative with this decision. Plus her relationship with Eddie is far more important and interesting anyway.
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No you're right, there's just the irony that King was already being inclusive when he created his characters, and this is the major property producers chose to take a chance on.
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Hah yeah true, it's exciting tho. If only a studio like Marvel were half as adventurous.
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In the end, I'm just glad to see some of this hit the screen. Now if they can just find a way to fix the second half of the last book (especially the demise of the Crimson King), I'll be happy.
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I'm not sure about King's most recent decade, though. I mean, it's understandable, he's been at it a long time, but the only two really outstanding novels of his (IMO) since the mid 2000s are 11/22/63 and Under The Dome. My understanding is that both had their genesis much earlier in his career (at least in working draft/germ of an idea form), and so, aren't necessarily as 'recent' as they seem.
For sure. That's why I said up until 1991. I mean, after that, it gets...weird.
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Lots of people hate Cell, but I dunno, it really excels at what it is. Seriously scary in places, the depiction of these survivors forced to tramp the post-society land on foot, trying to avoid the flocks.

As for 1991 as a cutoff, I dunno entirely that I agree. Yes, it gets a bit weird both before (The Dark Half) and after that (Rose Madder anyone?). But I can think of a bunch of King books from 1992 till the end of the decade that are solid. Dolores Clairborne / Gerald's Game; Hearts In Atlantis (probably the best thing he'd done in years); the short story collection; um... I'll even give a shout-out to Insomnia.

Not Bag of Bones though. That was like a... I don't know what that was.
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Not starting at the start, with the man in black fleeing across the desert and the gunslinger following, is pretty much the working definition of epic fail.
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Desperation and The Regulators were both really good and they were mid 90s.
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