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Old 12-02-2010, 05:12 PM   #316
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Russell's biggest problem was that most people hated him, so most people did not vote for him to win the million bucks. He could have went up against a crash test dummy and still lost. Bottom Line: if you're an evil bastard to people, you won't win. That's probably why Naonka wouldn't have won if she stuck around. Who knows? Maybe Naonka knew she wasn't gonna win because of her transgressions, so that's why she bailed.
people hated Richard Hatch also,
But at least that jury voted for the best Survivor
you made my point, a crash test dummy , I think you are right, that is how petty the jury has become.

this is not vote for Prom Queen or Prom King
the people that say I played with integrity make me sick
this is not real life, it is supposed to be a competitive game where people out wit, not out friend people.
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Old 12-02-2010, 05:23 PM   #317
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the people that say I played with integrity make me sick
this is not real life, it is supposed to be a competitive game where people out wit, not out friend people.
It's very possible to play with integrity and still play the game well, win and place high.

Ethan, Yule, Yaoman come to mind
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Old 12-02-2010, 05:38 PM   #318
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Ethan was boring and arrogant.

Yaoman?
making false idols is not playing with integrity.
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people hated Richard Hatch also,
But at least that jury voted for the best Survivor
you made my point, a crash test dummy , I think you are right, that is how petty the jury has become.
Hatch was well respected and liked by that jury. Colleen & Gervase only voted against him because they wanted to send a message at Sue for her diatribe against Kelly. Had Sue not been such a whiny hag, Richard would've won by a 6-1 vote, proving that everybody felt he was quite likable and a smart player.

Natalie, on the other hand, did indeed play a much better social game in Samoa. Russell didn't take the time to get to know anybody and it was Natalie that helped them use insider information that led to Russell playing his idol at the right time.

I'll grant you that last year's jury was petty....and perhaps All Stars as well. Oh, and definitely freakin' Gabon.
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This is long but freaking hilarious

Bitchy Survivor Blog: I Have Nothing Left To Suck
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It's very possible to play with integrity and still play the game well, win and place high.

Ethan, Yule, Yaoman come to mind

How about Tom Westman?
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:04 PM   #322
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Wow!
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Hatch was well respected and liked by that jury. Colleen & Gervase only voted against him because they wanted to send a message at Sue for her diatribe against Kelly. Had Sue not been such a whiny hag, Richard would've won by a 6-1 vote, proving that everybody felt he was quite likable and a smart player.

Natalie, on the other hand, did indeed play a much better social game in Samoa. Russell didn't take the time to get to know anybody and it was Natalie that helped them use insider information that led to Russell playing his idol at the right time.

I'll grant you that last year's jury was petty....and perhaps All Stars as well. Oh, and definitely freakin' Gabon.


My sense is that Richard Hatch was more of a "jerk" when talking to the cameras than he was in his interactions with the other players. Some viewers may assume that what we see when the players talk to the cameras is the same is what those in the game see, but I don't think so. People who are overtly hostile generally don't do well. Russell was probably the best player of that type, and he couldn't win.
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Yeah, I agree. Richard was a jerk where as Russell was a ruthless bastard. Like many have said, though, at least Russell had a strategy. Naonka had no strategy. She was just batshit crazy.
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My question is, why didn't they have an immunity challenge? If there was one, they didn't show it. Jane had the necklace. What would have happened if both Naonka and Kelly decided to stay? Jane automatically gets to keep the necklace for a second TC without having to do anything?

It was not explained on the show.
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Jane has immunity?
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Old 12-03-2010, 02:47 PM   #327
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Oh yeah she won it at the rope challenge. Maybe they'll explain more next ep. Why would jeff take it back though? I'm confused about that.
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I read today that Kelly was a recruit, not an applicant, and had never seen an episode of the show. That explains why she wasn't prepared for how hard it was. But I don't think they should recruit people. They've got enough applicants. My brother has tried 11 times.
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11 times!?!


Now that's what I call... determination.
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Now that's what I call... determination.
Yeep. He writes the videos and I edit it together. He's made some pretty good videos, I don't know why he's never made it.
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