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Old 04-16-2010, 06:31 PM   #316
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I agree it was a dumb move, but let's not be too hard on JT here. Keep in mind they've never seen Russell play before, and we have the benefit of seeing it on tv and knowing what's going on at the other camp. Plus, if I was on the Heroes, I'd sure as heck think there was a female alliance in control. I'd never believe Coach and Rob would be gone at this point.

That being said, as Rob would say, JT is a bonehead.
You do make a good point. We as the viewers can see everything and know what's going on on both sides, they dont. However it does take a lot of balls to do something like that without knowing FOR SURE that the plan will work or that there even is an all girl alliance on the villain tribe.
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:31 PM   #317
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Probst claims on his blog that the pen & paper were part of Amanda's luxury item they won a while back.

wow, that sounds odd, do they allow matches, lighters, knifes and other game changer items

do I recall someone getting the boot for having an energy bar?
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:34 PM   #318
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I think sneaking in an energy bar is a bit different than being rewarded pen and paper for a challenge.

Anyway here's Jeff's blog if anyone wants to read it.

Jeff Probst blogs 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' episode 9 | EW.com
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Old 04-16-2010, 06:42 PM   #319
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I think the boneheadedness of JT's move is a bit overrated. It was kind of dumb for him personally, but I don't see how any of the other heroes are harmed by it, and it definitely helped Russell, but in no way helps Russell's alliance and in fact may hurt them. I don't know why they were celebrating so much. If the girl's alliance isn't really true then Russell's people should have realized that whoever is left not in their alliance is going to flip at the merge!

The real "Big Event" of last night's episode was Parvarti and Danielle finding the other idol. I know a lot of people don't like Parv, but I really respect her gamemanship. She's like Russell but without the ego that has tripped him up. I find this season that I want to see a strategist win.

Sandra will reveal the truth at the merge next week and there will be no reason for the heroes to think she's lying. The heroes all were counting on a flip from the villains. They assumed it would be Russell. . .it just turns out it will be Sandra instead. Now their only challenge will be to figure out how to get him to use the idol (and to deal with Parvati and the idol that they don't know she has). In fact they could drive it out next week by voting four for Russell and two for either Jerri, Danielle or Parvarti. Either way they win. Heroes have a big advantage right now, boneheaded move not withstanding.
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Nothing will top Tyson's move for me. That dude had so little to gain by voting for Parvati. In fact, nothing. At least Erik had a valid reason for giving up the idol - to try and gain some trust and prove to the jury that he could be strategic.
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I know a lot of people don't like Parv, but I really respect her gamemanship. She's like Russell but without the ego that has tripped him up.
exactly
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Old 04-16-2010, 07:04 PM   #322
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I like this entry from Jeff's blog;
I’ve said it many times this season because I believe it. Parvati has found a weakness in Russell and it’s a weakness that haunts most men – our ego when it comes to the opposite sex.
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I just watched tonight. Great episode.

Regarding the decision to give the idol to Russell - I wouldn't necessarily call it a dumb move, but it was extremely risky. They are assuming there is an all-girl alliance and took a chance. If correct, it would have been a brilliant move. But the point is, it wasn't worth the risk, not with the merge approaching. Be conservative and keep it within your own group.

Sandra is obviously going to let the Heroes know what is really going on. They just need to believe her.

Next week should be fun.
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why not wonder about an immunity challenge that was heavily favored for the lighter, smaller footed team, creates quite the drama, doesn't it.

No drama as that was a reward challenge, really no big deal that the skinny girls got some steak and shrimp.

Time to pay a little attention when you watch deepster.
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Nothing will top Tyson's move for me. That dude had so little to gain by voting for Parvati. In fact, nothing. At least Erik had a valid reason for giving up the idol - to try and gain some trust and prove to the jury that he could be strategic.
I would agree with you BigMac. I don't think I've ever seen anyone essentially vote himself out the way he did.
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I think sneaking in an energy bar is a bit different than being rewarded pen and paper for a challenge.

Anyway here's Jeff's blog if anyone wants to read it.

Jeff Probst blogs 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' episode 9 | EW.com
oops, ok. I'm gonna blame this one on reading and posting on my iphone (small fonts),
I thought you said a luxury she brought with her. sorry

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No drama as that was a reward challenge, really no big deal that the skinny girls got some steak and shrimp.

Time to pay a little attention when you watch deepster.
yes, I really do need to pay better attention, I am channel shifting, and on the Internet, while watching,
truth is, I am getting a bit senile
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In fact they could drive it out next week by voting four for Russell and two for either Jerri, Danielle or Parvarti. Either way they win. Heroes have a big advantage right now, boneheaded move not withstanding.
ok. if heroes and Sandra , 6 votes - go 4 on Russell and 2 on Parv

to make Russell play the idol

and 4 villians all vote for Colby,what happens?
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oops, ok. I'm gonna blame this one on reading and posting on my iphone (small fonts),
I thought you said a luxury she brought with her. sorry
Well technically it was a luxury item she brought with her but only received from the reward challenge.
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Well technically it was a luxury item she brought with her but only received from the reward challenge.
you seem to follow this much more closely than I do.

I am a bit skeptical of the producers, if this is an explanation after the fact, it does not look good.
If before this event they had her recieveing the paper and pencil that would appear more legit.

It just seems odd, that the items J T needs to complete this show up at just the time he needs them. I am sure the show has a hosts of writters and pruducers than can come up creative answers.
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luxury item huh? Well it wouldn't surprise me if the whole thing wasn't staged.
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