Star Wars Episode VIII: A New Thread

[CosmoKramer]

After seeing the domestic 2nd weekend drop of nearly 70%, there is no way this hits $700 million domestic and therefore my hope of $1.65 billion WW is not going to happen. This might struggle to hit $1.4 billion (still an amazing result but a bigger drop from TFA than I would have expected).

So it looks like it will end out around 1.3 billion WW and 625 million domestic. Amazing results for a movie but definitely disappointing for the follow up to TFA.

This movie to me is so frustrating because it could have been so much better but they failed at almost every turn (at least for me they did).

 

[DaveC]

finally saw the movie and my review can be summed up into one sentence:

holy shit am i ever glad i went to see that on half-price tuesday.

 

[LemonMelon]

It bums me out that so many people dislike the film, but oh well. It's one of my favorites in the series.

 

[DaveC]

i liked the overall story, i just think that it was executed very poorly. it's a bad movie that should have been a good extended universe book.

i thought the kylo/rey/luke storyline was quite good, but just about everything else was pretty close to the nadir of the whole star wars saga. i wanted to throw poe out of an airlock every time he was on the screen (but apparently going unprotected into deep space doesn't matter in a galaxy far far away).

 

[the tourist]

Did people shred Empire Strikes Back when the heroes were okay just wearing a breather mask and wandering around in an asteroid cave? I know I know, space slug, but they didn’t know that when they popped the airlock.

 

[vibe]

This is how I would rank the Star Wars movies:

01. Return Of The Jedi
02. A New Hope
03. Empire Strikes Back
04. Rogue One
05. The Force Awakens
06. Revenge Of The Sith
07. The Last Jedi
08. Attack Of The Clones
09. The Phantom Menace

 

[LemonMelon]

This analysis of The Last Jedi and the surrounding hate storm is excellent.



Unsurprisingly, the comment section is full of people bitching about feminism, SJWs and "agendas" being "forced" on them in the theater.

 

[iron yuppie]

I'm not really a fan of Star Wars, though I have seen all of them multiple times (except for this latest one) just on account of existing in this society. I am curious to see this one, though, just on account of how wildly polarizing it is. From a fairly indifferent/detached perspective of one who neither loves nor hates the franchise, I can't imagine what this movie could possibly do that would warrant the amount of visceral anger it has received.

 

[MrPryck2U]

Finally saw Last Jedi yesterday. I enjoyed it.

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

I saw this last night. I'm having a hard time seeing why people are so critical about it, I really enjoyed myself pretty much from start to finish.

It's by no means a perfect movie and had some slow patches but when it works it really works.

 

[corianderstem]

Same. I had every intention of going to see it a second time but haven't quite gotten around to it.

 

[basstrap2418]

Looks great!

 

[corianderstem]

This is the first SW thing in recent years that left me a little cold. It looks ... okay?

 

[CosmoKramer]

Looks great!

As much of a dumpster fire that the Last Jedi was, i still have love for SW and this SW movie looks very interesting. I thought for sure it would be a dud but I’m thinking it might be worth going to see.

 

[basstrap2418]

The subject of Han Solo and Chewbacca is what interest me most about Star Wars. I'm hoping they have at least 3 movies about the adventures of Han Solo and Chewbacca if not more.

I read two of the original 3 Han Solo books from the 1970s. Han Solo and the Lost Legacy and Han Solo's Revenge. I've not read Han Solo at Stars End yet. They were written by Brian Daley and set about 2 years before A New Hope. They were the first non-movie Star Wars books written along with Splinter In The Minds Eye.

 

[Hewson]

I assume Harrison Ford will be doing all of Alden Ehrenreich's stunts as he's now approaching his physical peak at 75.

 

[basstrap2418]

I assume Harrison Ford will be doing all of Alden Ehrenreich's stunts as he's now approaching his physical peak at 75.

Well, the man is starring in the 5th Indiana Jones movie in 2020, a series where he has had more stunts to do than the Star Wars films.

 

[BVS]

well, the man is starring in the 5th indiana jones movie in 2020, a series where he has had more stunts to do than the star wars films.

 

[An Cat Gav]

This is how I would rank the Star Wars movies:

01. Return Of The Jedi
02. A New Hope
03. Empire Strikes Back
04. Rogue One
05. The Force Awakens
06. Revenge Of The Sith
07. The Last Jedi
08. Attack Of The Clones
09. The Phantom Menace

Mine would be,

1. Empire Strikes Back.
2. New Hope
3. Return Of The Jedi
4. Rogue One
5. Phantom Menace
6. Force Awakens
7. Revenge Of The Sith
8. Last Jedi
9. Attack Of The Clones.

 

[Mac_Fly]

1. New Hope
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. (tie) Return Of The Jedi/Revenge Of The Sith
5. Attack Of The Clones
6. Phantom Menace
7. The Last Jedi
8. The Force Awakens

 

[CosmoKramer]

1. New Hope
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. (tie) Return Of The Jedi/Revenge Of The Sith
5. Attack Of The Clones
6. Phantom Menace
7. The Last Jedi
8. The Force Awakens

Just speaking of the episodes:

1- Return of the Jedi
2-Empire Strikes Back
3-A New Hope
4-The Force Awakens
5-Revenge is the Sith
6-Phantom Menace

30 feet of shit


7-Attack of the Clones

Stand up Comedy

8-The Last Jedi

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Watched Last Jedi for the first time since I saw it opening night in the theater. I love it dearly. Forgot how cool and effective the scene was when R2 shows Luke the old hologram of Princess Leia. Still love everything about the scene in the underground cave with the million versions of Rey. Kylo killing Snoke and the saber flying into Rey's hand and the ensuing fight is just fucking exhilarating and is probably one of my favorite action sequences ever. Got choked up when Luke dies.

I will say this, though. I noticed a number of weird and distracting (at least for me) repetitive dialogue choices.

1. The phrase "snuffed out" gets used twice in the first like 10 minutes. Surely we could have found a different phrase the second time.
2. Rey calls Kylo a "snake" at one point and then later Finn calls Benicio Del Toro a "snake." What about a different word for one of those moments?
3. Luke uses the word "hubris" twice in the span of a minute when giving his big speech about the failure of the Jedi.
4. The repetition of the "Need a lift?" joke is weird and doesn't work for me either time. It's used once by Benicio Del Toro's character and later by Rose.
5. Leia's joke about "I changed my hair"...isn't that the exact joke used when she reunites with Han in Force Awakens? I guess this one isn't so bad because it's Leia and she rules.

There are even a couple more that I can't remember. This is me being very picky and nerdy and it's not anything that ruins the movie. I think it's a brilliant chapter. I just wanted to bring it up because it was something I noticed and was curious if anyone else noticed this.

Rian Johnson could have used maybe one more final quick edit of the dialogue. A thesaurus perhaps?

 

[LemonMelon]

Flaming hot take: The Last Jedi is one of the best Star Wars movies and will age extremely well for its bravery, iconic individual moments and quality filmmaking. The issues fans got up in arms about on release will be completely meaningless to someone watching it 30 years from now seeking a quality action/adventure film.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Agreed. That's great. What about all the weird moments of repetitive dialogue?

 

[Mac_Fly]

I will say this, though. I noticed a number of weird and distracting (at least for me) repetitive dialogue choices.

What about the use of the word "spark" for what seemed like a hundred f'n times?

 

[DaveC]

Flaming hot take: The Last Jedi is one of the best Star Wars movies and will age extremely well for its bravery, iconic individual moments and quality filmmaking. The issues fans got up in arms about on release will be completely meaningless to someone watching it 30 years from now seeking a quality action/adventure film.

[emoji38]

i have a lot of gripes with this movie but by far the biggest one is the way the ending makes every single space battle that came before it effectively meaningless.

 

[CosmoKramer]

[emoji38]

i have a lot of gripes with this movie but by far the biggest one is the way the ending makes every single space battle that came before it effectively meaningless.

You mean just ramming a space craft into what should be the most heavily fortified ship in the galaxy and just slicing it in half....lol


This movie was garbage for several reasons and this didn’t even occur to me (likely because I was itching to leave the theater at that point).

It was also a shame how General Akbar went out so unceremoniously....too bad Leia couldn’t force grab him and pull him back to the ship during the Mary Poppins scene because why not.

 

[DaveC]

yeah no kidding. the rebellion is presented the entire series as a small force desperately low on manpower, so what the hell was the point of sending all those pilots to their deaths in ANH if they could have just fired a half dozen empty y-wings at the unshielded death star? why did lando have to thread 8,000,000 needles during the battle of endor if they could have launched a few x-wing missiles as soon as the shield was down? what is the point of having fighter escort craft at all if capital ships can just fire unstoppable lightspeed cruise missiles at each other? that one scene completely threw every fleet tactic that exists in the galaxy in the garbage and made every sacrifice in all the star wars movies that came before it totally in vain and meaningless.

it's a steaming turd of a movie that i probably would have walked out of halfway through if it wasn't STAR WARS. it'll be fondly remembered in its rightful place alongside attack of the clones, i'm sure.

the new main trilogy movies have been really disappointing but that said, rogue one was dope, and i'm really looking forward to solo. me and the mrs are going to do a double feature of solo with deadpool 2 in a few weeks.

 

[iron yuppie]

Flaming hot take: The Last Jedi is one of the best Star Wars movies and will age extremely well for its bravery, iconic individual moments and quality filmmaking. The issues fans got up in arms about on release will be completely meaningless to someone watching it 30 years from now seeking a quality action/adventure film.

I'd really like to hear more about what made this movie "brave." For every apparently iconoclastic moment in the beginning and middle, it ends reinforcing every possible trope about the franchise, with a totally predictable showdown between the mentally pure, self-sacrificing Jedi and the impetuous, rage-blinded Sith or whatever the hell Adam Driver is supposed to be. I would call it pandering a million times more than brave.

 

[LemonMelon]

I'd really like to hear more about what made this movie "brave." For every apparently iconoclastic moment in the beginning and middle, it ends reinforcing every possible trope about the franchise, with a totally predictable showdown between the mentally pure, self-sacrificing Jedi and the impetuous, rage-blinded Sith or whatever the hell Adam Driver is supposed to be. I would call it pandering a million times more than brave.

It's pandering to Star Wars fans because, after pissing all over Jedi lore for two hours, it follows a storytelling formula that's existed for centuries? Not sure I see it.