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Old 12-18-2015, 07:53 PM   #421
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Just because Leia hasn't been trained doesn't mean the midichlorians wouldn't be passed on. And no reason to believe her count wouldn't be as high as Luke's. They're twins, after all.
Yeah, but Leia's always been portrayed as only in tune with the force, and not strongly force sensitive. At least to my knowledge. Even in the AU, I remember her training as basic, at best. Though I haven't read a TON of the books.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:24 PM   #422
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Just because Leia hasn't been trained doesn't mean the midichlorians wouldn't be passed on. And no reason to believe her count wouldn't be as high as Luke's. They're twins, after all.

 
Point taken. I guess the question then is, who is Luke's baby mama? Obviously we wouldn't know that, assuming Rey is his daughter at all (with her force sensitivity, I consider it something of a given). I'm guessing that Han's complete insensitivity to the force would split the count significantly in a way it didn't for Rey. In any case, it's fairly evident from the start that Rey is portrayed as uniquely force sensitive, Kylo seems terrified of her powers the moment they simultaneously discover she has them.



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The force strong with this one tho, over 9000 midichlorians say so

JJ should have done us a solid and completely thrown that part of the mythology in the garbage. Turns the Force into an episode of DBZ. It's pretty clear that he didn't though.
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Point taken. I guess the question then is, who is Luke's baby mama? Obviously we wouldn't know that, assuming Rey is his daughter at all (with her force sensitivity, I consider it something of a given). I'm guessing that Han's complete insensitivity to the force would split the count significantly in a way it didn't for Rey. In any case, it's fairly evident from the start that Rey is portrayed as uniquely force sensitive, Kylo seems terrified of her powers the moment they simultaneously discover she has them.






JJ should have done us a solid and completely thrown that part of the mythology in the garbage. Turns the Force into an episode of DBZ. It's pretty clear that he didn't though.
I don't recall them mentioning midichlorians once, actually.
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Old 12-18-2015, 11:24 PM   #424
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I don't recall them mentioning midichlorians once, actually.
They didn't. I think we're speculating about which offspring has the higher level in this thread.
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I don't recall them mentioning midichlorians once, actually.
They didn't. That said, an inherent hereditary link to the Force is the only way to explain how Rey can do what she does. It's a very different envisioning of the Force than IV and V and more in line with the prequels.
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Old 12-19-2015, 01:08 AM   #426
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I don't mind the hereditary aspect, but the scientific breakdown of it was probably unnecessary. Qui-Gon should have made his survey of Anakin based on his actions and abilities.
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Midichlorians and force sensitivity have never really been passed off as hereditary, necessarily, though. The Skywalkers seem to be an exception.
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I still wonder why the microbe living in the blood is heritable? come on man, hire a biologist. (sure recent study suggests that microbe will mostly be shared but that's still bullshit as that's no strict form of heredity)
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I think we're getting a little dismissive of the explanation of the force, at this point. It's not like he called it a germ.
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My understanding of midi-chlorians and their relationship to the Force comes from this:

So What the Heck Are Midi-Chlorians? | StarWars.com
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"Master Qui-Gon, I heard you mention midichlorians? What are midichlorians?"

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Star Wars: Episode VII: Revenge Of The Septuagenarian

Haha I was definitely quoting a Flying Lotus lyric.

Gotta say though, I'm realising all my chest-thumping, badge-of-honour never seen Star Wars stuff all these years has been pretty shit and lame. I get quite bad fomo and this Force Awakens film seems to be a really cool shared cultural experience and I'm actually a bit bummed to not be into it at the moment. I mean, even I got a pang of emotion watching "Chewie, we're home" from the trailer. My girlfriend likes (although isn't obsessive about) Star Wars so I think I'm gonna try and watch 4, 5 and 6 soon so I can try to catch the new one while it's still in the movies.
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Star Wars: Episode VII: Revenge Of The Septuagenarian

The more casual a fan you are, the better off you'll be watching TFA. A newcomer would be lost, but I doubt that would be a deal breaker for such a fundamentally entertaining action/adventure film. Very little effort is expended on exposition anyway; you're pretty much strapped in and taken along for the ride and that's the case for everyone.
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"Master Qui-Gon, I heard you mention midichlorians? What are midichlorians?"

I've literally never been anywhere close to as bothered by this as everyone else seems to be.
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The more casual a fan you are, the better off you'll be watching TFA. A newcomer would be lost, but I doubt that would be a deal breaker for such a fundamentally entertaining action/adventure film. Very little effort is expended on exposition anyway; you're pretty much strapped in and taken along for the ride and that's the case for everyone.
Did you just instruct Cobbler to Cobbler Star Wars?
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