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Old 06-12-2008, 10:03 AM   #256
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If Big would have gotten ahold of Carrie before the ceremony though...if she would have just answered her phone and reassured him like he was hoping for...I don't think it would have been an issue. He just needed to hear from her that it was still just about the two of them.

Yes, I realize this is not real life and doing that wouldn't have set the movie up properly...but I'm just saying that in his defense though. Big was vulnerable, he was insecure and scared...he just wanted a little reassurance. It was sweet.
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Old 06-12-2008, 10:21 AM   #257
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Completely agree with what BC just said about Big. The fact that he was so vulnerable and scared is what endeared me so much to him. Made him seem human since he always seen so strong. Just wish he had gotten out of the car after he had seen Carrie instead of driving off then realizing what an idiot he was! lol. Have to say I would have probably beaten him with my bouquet too
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:24 AM   #258
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I need a male's point of view. My instinct is to call BS whenever men are jerks and women see it as just being scared and vulnerable. Big had plenty of time to be scared and vulnerable and to have cold feet while Carrie was planning the highly publicized wedding. Instead, he chose to publicly break her heart and humiliate her.

I can get more psychological about it, though, and see that they both had to play out their own worst visions of themselves one last time--she the victim, and he the Carrie victimizer--before they could finally commit to each other.

I'm also obviously extremely bored at work to be putting this much thought into it.
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:22 PM   #259
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I need a male's point of view. My instinct is to call BS whenever men are jerks and women see it as just being scared and vulnerable. Big had plenty of time to be scared and vulnerable and to have cold feet while Carrie was planning the highly publicized wedding. Instead, he chose to publicly break her heart and humiliate her.
Well, I'm not a male, obviously , but...yes, he had plenty of time to be scared and get cold feet prior to the wedding. However, that guy razzing him at the rehearsal dinner and Miranda making that comment all so close to the wedding were rough. It all came to a head on the wedding day, he couldn't get ahold of Carrie for one last moment of reassurance, and he panicked.

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Old 06-12-2008, 12:46 PM   #260
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SATC is fantastic! yes I appreciate.

my fav is Carrie because I love how carefree she is in clothes style and personality.

and her and Mr Big......

that girl can wear anything!
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I need a male's point of view. My instinct is to call BS whenever men are jerks and women see it as just being scared and vulnerable. Big had plenty of time to be scared and vulnerable and to have cold feet while Carrie was planning the highly publicized wedding. Instead, he chose to publicly break her heart and humiliate her.
well, here is my male point of view

a number of things here that bother me
1. if Big really started getting doubts because of having a deranged Miranda yelling some stuff then I have to wonder how committed he was to getting married
truly, not a team of people going on forever (not that anyone would) could get me to change my mind on getting married
2. how is it possible he's letting Carrie arrange the entire wedding on her own?
since Lara and I got engaged we've talked about the wedding day so much that it seems impossible to me for a guy to just show no input at all
3. sort of related to #2, but why does Carrie arrange the wedding she knows Big doesn't want and why does he let her? really, you've got to wonder who they were trying to please
4. to not show up on your wedding day ......
it's bad enough to lack a heart, but to lack balls too must make life quite miserable

I have more to say about this
but I don't think I can without swearing
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well, here is my male point of view

a number of things here that bother me
1. if Big really started getting doubts because of having a deranged Miranda yelling some stuff then I have to wonder how committed he was to getting married
truly, not a team of people going on forever (not that anyone would) could get me to change my mind on getting married
2. how is it possible he's letting Carrie arrange the entire wedding on her own?
since Lara and I got engaged we've talked about the wedding day so much that it seems impossible to me for a guy to just show no input at all
3. sort of related to #2, but why does Carrie arrange the wedding she knows Big doesn't want and why does he let her? really, you've got to wonder who they were trying to please
4. to not show up on your wedding day ......
it's bad enough to lack a heart, but to lack balls too must make life quite miserable

I have more to say about this
but I don't think I can without swearing
So then, no "awwww, he was just scared, poor sweet thing" from you? I didn't think so.

You're right on every point.
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Everything Salome said

Still, I really liked this movie and already have plans to see it again.
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My thought is: if you can't openly talk to the person you're going to be marrying about your own personal fears, doubts and anxieties, then why the hell are you marrying that person in the first place?

I understand he called her several times on the day, but he was clearly feeling conflicted long before the day. I love Big to death, but he really did need to man-up before the Big Day . . . and not just with one throwaway line about this being his "3rd marriage, how do you think that makes me feel".

Both of them hide what they're really feeling, not just from each other, but from themselves.

I can see it now: "Sex and the City: Two In Big Counseling"
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I can see it now: "Sex and the City: Two In Big Counseling"



Yeah, but if they didn't hide what they were feeling, there'd be no drama and, hence, no big opening weekend.
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So then, no "awwww, he was just scared, poor sweet thing" from you? I didn't think so.

You're right on every point.


to add in the other targeted demographic of this movie -- the urban gay male -- i, too, think that Big is really kind of a Big Jerk. i was kind of irritated, too, with the end of the movie. i actually thought they were going to do something interesting and have that be the end of Big, and she'd have to move on, and maybe she'd find someone and maybe she wouldn't, and she'd move off into the urban jungle of NYC and it's infinite possibilities.

but, no. they went for the easy win and had them reconcile.

why she let Aidan get away is something i'll never understand ...

as for the movie, meh, it was fine. i enjoyed the Mexico part, because i got sick in Mexico a week or so ago, though i thought the constant label whoring not only cheapened the movie, but it cheapened the characters. sure, they'd label drop in the show, but it seemed as if each scene had some type of virtual fellatio performed on said brand name. gross, imho.
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There was a scathing review in The New Yorker, so scathing it was funny. Here's a taste:

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The women in “Sex and the City,” by that standard, are little better than also-rans, and their gallops of conspicuous consumption seem oddly joyless, as displacement activities tend to be. “When Samantha couldn’t get off, she got things,” Carrie says. Look at the beam in your own eye, sister. Mr. Big not only buys her a penthouse apartment (“I got it”), he offers to customize the space for her shoes and other fetishes. “I can build you a better closet,” he says, as if that were a binding condition of their sexual harmony: if he builds it, she will come. The creepiest aspect of this sequence was the sound that rose from the audience as he displayed the finished closet: gasps, fluttering moans, and, beside me, two women applauding. The tactic here is basically pornographic—arouse the viewer with image upon image of what lies just beyond her reach—and the film makes feeble attempts to rein it in. When the wedding hits a bump (look out for Kristin Davis screaming “No! No!” at Chris Noth like a ninth grader auditioning for “The Crucible”), and the bridegroom veers away, our heroine’s reaction to the split is typical: “How am I going to get my clothes?” What, honey, even the puffball skirt that you wear to the catwalk show—the one that makes you look like a giant inverted mushroom? That plea gets second prize for the most revealing line in the film, the winner being Miranda’s outburst as she hunts for an apartment in a mainly Chinese district: “White guy with a baby! Let’s follow him.” So that’s what drives these people: Aryan real estate.
Even though I laughed, cried and ate popcorn, I can say in all honesty it was not a good film. Pure cotton candy. But that's all I expected or wanted from it.
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Miranda's "white guy with baby" line actually made me cringe during the movie.

Okay, since you're enjoying it, here's more:

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At least, you could argue, Miranda has a job, as a lawyer. But the film pays it zero attention, and the other women expect her to drop it and fly to Mexico without demur. (And she does.) Worse still is the sneering cut as the scene shifts from Carrie, carefree and childless in the New York Public Library, to the face of Miranda’s young son, smeared with spaghetti sauce. In short, to anyone facing the quandaries of being a working mother, the movie sends a vicious memo: Don’t be a mother. And don’t work. Is this really where we have ended up—with this superannuated fantasy posing as a slice of modern life? On TV, “Sex and the City” was never as insulting as “Desperate Housewives,” which strikes me as catastrophically retrograde, but, almost sixty years after “All About Eve,” which also featured four major female roles, there is a deep sadness in the sight of Carrie and friends defining themselves not as Bette Davis, Anne Baxter, Celeste Holm, and Thelma Ritter did—by their talents, their hats, and the swordplay of their wits—but purely by their ability to snare and keep a man. Believe me, ladies, we’re not worth it. It’s true that Samantha finally disposes of one paramour, but only with a view to landing another, and her parting shot is a beauty: “I love you, but I love me more.” I have a terrible feeling that “Sex and the City” expects us not to disapprove of that line, or even to laugh at it, but to exclaim in unison, “You go, girl.” I walked into the theatre hoping for a nice evening and came out as a hard-line Marxist, my head a whirl of closets, delusions, and blunt-clawed cattiness. All the film lacks is a subtitle: “The Lying, the Bitch, and the Wardrobe.”


It's true. But we love it anyway.
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