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Old 06-11-2009, 06:21 PM   #601
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The real travesty is that Del Toro wasn't even nominated, a man who gave the performance of his career.
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Yeah. I'll acknowledge that the movie takes an unpredicted turn in the last third, but I too think it was a great finish.



Haha, hey look we agree... this is so weird.

I think Boyle is bold in his choices, and bold in all the things he tries with each film, he's more ambitious than perfectly effective in a lot of his movies (and the screenplays aren't always the best), but I give him a lot of respect for what he tries. 28DL, Millions, and Slumdog however are masterpieces of their respective genres, and Trainspotting comes very close, as does Sunshine.
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Sad to read this from everyone, as I don't think Boyle is worthy of such high praise. He's made a handful of good to very good films, maybe a couple great ones, but I don't consider him an auteur. And like Fincher's films or not, but he definitely is deserving of the label.
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Slumdog in a masterpiece in the "Americanized Bollywood fantasy hyper-real gangster" genre?
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Sad to read this from everyone, as I don't think Boyle is worthy of such high praise. He's made a handful of good to very good films, maybe a couple great ones, but I don't consider him an auteur. And like Fincher's films or not, but he definitely is deserving of the label.
Interesting, I remember discussing this in my auteur study class this semester. Boyle came up after the Oscars, and how after winning an award for Slumdog he instantaneously shifted from, to borrow the phrase from the old Cahiers boys, a metteur-en-scene to an auteur overnight.
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Slumdog in a masterpiece in the "Americanized Bollywood fantasy hyper-real gangster" genre?
I believe it's the "poverty porn" genre.

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Interesting, I remember discussing this in my auteur study class this semester. Boyle came up after the Oscars, and how after winning an award for Slumdog he instantaneously shifted from, to borrow the phrase from the old Cahiers boys, a metteur-en-scene to an auteur overnight.
Well, I don't think the real film snobs are talking about him in that way, whereas Fincher's been getting that treatment at least since Zodiac.

Here's a real good discussion of his work I read not too long ago:

The House Next Door: The Conversations: David Fincher


And a piece on Benjamin Button from Matt Zoller Seitz, one of my favorite film writers:

Present Tense by Matt Zoller Seitz - Moving Image Source


Seitz also wrote a majestic defense of The New World a few years back:

The House Next Door: "There is only this...All else is unreal."
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I didn't mean to suggest they are. More that his reputation switched that way in the eyes of the public and mainstream media/critical circles.
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Agreed, he's become more popular, but I standby having been a fan of him for ages, not jumping on the bandwagon in 2008. Danny Boyle and Darren Aronofsky are my two favorite modern filmmakers, and no one and their film studies can change that for me.
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Slumdog in a masterpiece in the "Americanized Bollywood fantasy hyper-real gangster" genre?
Well in that case, its one of a kind isn't it?
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I saw some talking about Sunshine. I love the hell out of that movie. I'm in the minority, probably, who think that and 28 Days Later are Boyle's best.
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I saw some talking about Sunshine. I love the hell out of that movie. I'm in the minority, probably, who think that and 28 Days Later are Boyle's best.
Those are absolutely my two favorites of his.
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I saw some talking about Sunshine. I love the hell out of that movie. I'm in the minority, probably, who think that and 28 Days Later are Boyle's best.
Between those two and Trainspotting, I'm golden.

Slummy's a solid and entertaining movie, for what it's worth. The Oscar bonanza was bullshit, as most are, but it was at least Top 5 or 10-worthy of the year. It could always be worse.
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Saw Gran Torino last night. This is the first Clint Eastwood movie that I have ever seen and it was really great. He has a new fan!

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It's also pretty terrible.
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