R.I.P. Michael Jackson
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ladywithspinninghead
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
He's got to be a sociopath; the callous SOB has no feelings...
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
Gee what are the odds that he was the source of many of Michael's problems?
Anji
New Yorker
Jeesh that interview was awful the man is nothing better than a cockroach!
I found something interesting Joe Jackson's illegitimate daughter (Janet + Michael's half sis) - The Luxe Lounge
Maybe the family better set up another clause that The vomit inducing J Jackson doesn't get his hands on anything to do with Micheal
I found something interesting Joe Jackson's illegitimate daughter (Janet + Michael's half sis) - The Luxe Lounge
Maybe the family better set up another clause that The vomit inducing J Jackson doesn't get his hands on anything to do with Micheal
dabiggestu2fan
Rock n' Roll Doggie
All Sharpton and Joe Jackson are both douchbags! I could never stand Al Sharpton and can't stand Joe Jackson more then ever now. Both of these guys don't care about Michael! Al just wants to be the hero and Joe just wants to make more money and fame! Bloody Shame!!!
one4u2
ONE love, blood, life
Just a thought, but in a house that huge that he was renting, wouldn't one think there are security cameras throughout??..possibly even in the bedroom so they would be able to see exactly what happened that day??
WildHoneyAlways
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
He had someone else do it. It was him, Al Sharpton and a 3rd guy and the 3rd guy stepped in to plug Joe's latest project to "take kids off the street and train them to make hits" or something close to that.
What a vile, cold hearted piece of crap.
I was half kidding about the self-promotion.
Unbelievable. I can not fathom the extent of emotional/physical/psychological damage this man inflicted on his family.
U2isthebest
ONE love, blood, life
Pictures from just 2 days before his passing at rehearsal. Good lord, he still had it. You can just see it even a still photo. You can't fake that or learn it. It was just in him. I'm guessing the last pic. might have been a "Smooth Criminal" rehearsal. It looks similar to his outfit in the video.
Michael Jackson Concert Rehearsal | TMZ.com
Michael Jackson Concert Rehearsal | TMZ.com
deep
Blue Crack Addict
wow,
eveyone is hating on old Joe Jackson, now
Joe Jackson like Michael Jackson is a mixed bag
No one wants any mention of MJ's flaws
so swing away on Joe
there is a lot to admire about Joe Jackson
eveyone is hating on old Joe Jackson, now
Joe Jackson like Michael Jackson is a mixed bag
No one wants any mention of MJ's flaws
so swing away on Joe
there is a lot to admire about Joe Jackson
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
Promoting anything when his son isn't even buried isn't one of them
I don't know the guy personally but I find that disgusting. So sue me.
I'm well aware of MJ's flaws as described in the media. I don't know what's fact and what's fiction. But I tend to believe that his father was abusive.
deep
Blue Crack Addict
MJ has been accused of child abuse, too.
Joe had like 8 or 9 kids before he was 30.
he worked hard, all his life, did not go on food stamps or live in government housing.
where do you think MJ or Janet got that work ethic?
that eveyone keeps going on about?
Joe had like 8 or 9 kids before he was 30.
he worked hard, all his life, did not go on food stamps or live in government housing.
where do you think MJ or Janet got that work ethic?
that eveyone keeps going on about?
U2isthebest
ONE love, blood, life
This. Michael (and many of his siblings) have said their father was abusive. Seeing interviews with Michael you can tell he was abused. He could barely look people in the eye, he was so shy and soft-spoken. He was like a scared rabbit, especially when his father was brought up. He was clearly terrified of the man. Nobody's saying Michael was perfect, but you'd have to be pretty stupid to believe even half of the things the media said about him, especially the worst things. I was watching an interview with some of his lawyers from the last trial on CNN last night, and they said there were times when he'd literally collapse from crying during the trial because he had such a gentle, childlike way of looking at the world, he couldn't understand why people would think he was capable of doing the things they accused him of. He was a victim, and he stayed that way all his life. His father is the biggest cause for that.
MrPryck2U
ONE love, blood, life
Everyone is well aware of Michael's flaws. Just like everyone is well aware that Joe Jackson has been a fuckin' asshole forever. And Al Sharpton has been a fool forever too. These two should NOT be speaking for The Jackson family. They are a fuckin disgrace to life! I got 2 words for Al Sharpton: Tawana Brawley
U2isthebest
ONE love, blood, life
That's fine and good for adults. But Michael had that work ethic forced on him when he was 10 years old. The message he got from Joe Jackson was that he was only worthwhile when he was working. If he wanted to play or be a kid, he couldn't because there was always money to make for good ol' Joe.
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
Yes I know about MJ being accused of abuse. Don't know if that's true or not. Abused kids sometimes follow that path themselves.
I don't give a damn about the work ethic. It doesn't matter in the slightest when your son has died and you go out promoting crap. Have some dignity and respect. It certainly fits in with a theme of using your kids for cash cows.
deep
Blue Crack Addict
all the siblings got harsh treatment from the father
Michael's issues seem to be more with the rejection by the American public,
as he grew older and faded from his childhood successes.
Michael's issues seem to be more with the rejection by the American public,
as he grew older and faded from his childhood successes.
WildHoneyAlways
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
I don't think there is anyone in this thread who isn't willing to admit MJ was disturbed. I made up my mind long ago about Michael and his death hasn't changed my opinions.
Similarly, my opinion of Joe Jackson hasn't changed much over the years. I find little to admire in those who abuse their family.
MrPryck2U
ONE love, blood, life
There's a reason Joe banged out of all his kids in rapid order. So someday, he wouldn't have to work another day in his life. Looks like his plan worked thanks to Michael and Company. Especially Michael. Without him, the Jacksons wouldn't have gone anywhere. Michael has been the family's meal ticket since he was ten years old.
Michael and the rest of the family got their work ethic thanks to Joe beating the piss out of them.
Michael has been accused of child abuse. With Joe, it was proven.
Now, granted Deep, you could be messing with our heads with these wacky statements and just doing it to get a rise, which sometimes is fun.
But, if you're not, you're scaring the shit out of me.
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
Well said
Apparently Joe cheated on his wife and had a child with at least one woman too. Well as long as he still had his meal tickets, why not?
deep
Blue Crack Addict
lot's of kids have strict parents, and belts and whippings were common in my generation, I am near M J's age.
let's get real, there are real parallels with M J and Elvis. He was lonely.
He would have to buy out a whole theater, so he could go alone and watch a movie by himself. Elvis died alone, in a big house, in poor heath.
who or what really killed Elvis, MJ, and Anna Nicole Smith?
let's get real, there are real parallels with M J and Elvis. He was lonely.
He would have to buy out a whole theater, so he could go alone and watch a movie by himself. Elvis died alone, in a big house, in poor heath.
who or what really killed Elvis, MJ, and Anna Nicole Smith?
BoMac
Self-righteous bullshitter
Now, granted Deep, you could be messing with our heads with these wacky statements and just doing it to get a rise, which sometimes is fun.
Deep likes to play Devil's advocate on issues.
MrPryck2U
ONE love, blood, life
I agree with you there, but this other stuff that you're saying about Joe ain't "real" at all.
Michael, Elvis and Anna all had one big thing in common: They were all addicted to prescription drugs and no one was going to tell them they couldn't have them.
elevated_u2_fan
Blue Crack Supplier
deep
Blue Crack Addict
well said ?
that is just plain old silly talk
he knew when he was 20 that he was capable of creating the biggest pop act in America?
how much thought did you put into that statement?
the guy worked in a steel mill to support his family, but knew he had the seeds in his pants for America's biggest pop group.
How did he know his seeds would not lead to NBA players?
or perhaps, Barack Obama?
or O J Simpson?
deep
Blue Crack Addict
I just don't like hating on people.
(unless the person has no redeeming qualities)
be it Tom Cruise, MJ or Joe Jackson,
MrPryck2U
ONE love, blood, life
WildHoneyAlways
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
So you find it acceptable to promote your new project when someone is trying to offer condolences on the death of your child?
deep
Blue Crack Addict
it ain't real?
we all seem to want to give M J allowances, and I am good with that
I did not like it when the first thread I started got hi-jacked by a little group that only wanted to put the spot light on M J flaws and keep it there. Everyone agreed that MJ has some issues, but looking at his life,
we can kind of understand why he turned out the way he did.
and he has so mant posative contributions to consider.
Joe Jackson was 20 when he started having kids, and had a bunch by 30.
These kids turned out pretty good. They are not like the performers today that are always in the news or going to jail.
At what point is one not responisible for their own demise? Elvis should have got help, Anns Nicole should have got help. I wish Michael had gotten help. I read Lisa Marie article. she tried to help but, Michael would not listen.
Now is not the time to hate on Joe Jackson
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Addict
It's well said that the guy had that "work ethic" instilled in his kids (and by abusive means, sometimes) because they were his ticket to riches. That's what I was referring to
As for "scolding" people for "hating" on someone..well the way the guy's behaving screams dirtbag to me. Once again, sue me. At least wait until your son is buried. But I am a hater.
Diane L
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
I agree with this statement 1000%.
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