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Old 06-18-2012, 01:16 AM   #76
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Just got back and I have to say that it held up pretty well on a second viewing. I still enjoyed it a great deal. Something really quick that I noticed from the 3D to the 2D; There's a scene near the start of the film where everyone is still in stasis as they approach the planet. David opens the blast shield from the viewing window at the front of the ship. In 3D, the shot was stunning. Might've been one of my favourite single shots of the entire movie. But in 2D, I hardly noticed it.

To the actual film and story:
First of all, there is no doubt that the liquid the engineer drinks at the beginning of the film and the black goo from the main portions of the film are not the same. The liquid at the beginning looks to come from some sort of honeycomb looking structure and is more metallic; it almost looked like mercury. So the people complaining that the black goo has no rules and was just a magic device for the writers to have it do whatever they wanted are completely wrong (and by extension, that chart from earlier in the thread is also wrong). The black goo affects the engineers in the exact same way that it affects the humans. It's quite obvious that the severed head that they found was infected with the black goo, but had been decapitated early in the infection process. When they stimulate the nervous system and reanimate it, the infection continues to mutate the head. The only difference is, they over stimulate and are unable to bring it back down in time, so the head explodes. I maintain that my zombie theory still stands.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:27 AM   #77
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Another question that was actually directly asked in the film: Is Vickers an android? There are certainly suggestions of such outside of the outright accusation, among them her being Weyland's "daughter." She was also able to throw David around fairly easily, which was a bit surprising.
On the second viewing, I would say it's pretty apparent that she isn't an android. Otherwise it would make little sense that she was in stasis for the duration of the trip or that she was exercising after the stasis, presumably to work 2.5 years of stillness out of her muscles and joints
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:32 AM   #78
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I thought in particular that the CGI for the Engineers were crazy good - usually when a computer-generated character appears onscreen, I have to get past the "I'm watching a CGI character" feeling but these guys just looked so incredibly real.
Just reading through the thread to see what question popped up and saw this one that I meant to comment on. Pretty sure the Engineers weren't cgi (aside from being digitally made bigger), but rather a real actor with silicone face appliances to get that creepy translucent look
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On the second viewing, I would say it's pretty apparent that she isn't an android. Otherwise it would make little sense that she was in stasis for the duration of the trip or that she was exercising after the stasis, presumably to work 2.5 years of stillness out of her muscles and joints
I caught that too and almost took time to write it.

One thing that bothered me is the unlikely coincidence that the ship just happens to choose the right place to come through the planets atmosphere to see the large line drawings in the valley that leads them to the alien lair and spaceship.

there would have been an better way to do it. Just have them orbit the planet for a few days and have them send out a few satellite probes that could have spotted the line drawings.
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:12 AM   #80
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One thing that bothered me is the unlikely coincidence that the ship just happens to choose the right place to come through the planets atmosphere to see the large line drawings in the valley that leads them to the alien lair and spaceship.
Ya, I thought about that too this time. I guess for the sake of realism, they could've done it differently, but movies often take those liberties (And who's to say that the entire planet isn't filled with these installations and no matter where they landed, they would've found a similar one). The same goes for the complaints that Vickers runs away from the crashing ship along it's length rather than to the side. But it's not as if she would still be alive had she done that, it would have just been a more round about way of killing her.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:40 AM   #81
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On the second viewing, I would say it's pretty apparent that she isn't an android. Otherwise it would make little sense that she was in stasis for the duration of the trip or that she was exercising after the stasis, presumably to work 2.5 years of stillness out of her muscles and joints
Yep, those are among the arguments I'm hearing for her not being an android. On the other hand, weren't Ash and Bishop in stasis for their trip? Vickers might just be a different model than David.
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I've thought of those possibilities, I really would like to see her in the next movie.

But, it really does not add up. She wanted her father to move on so she would inherit his holdings. That suggest she is a natural person with a history, birth, childhood, etc.


With that crap writer from Lost, anything couild happen. This certainly is no where near as well written as Blade Runner ( Philip K. Dick )
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With that crap writer from Lost, anything couild happen. This certainly is no where near as well written as Blade Runner ( Philip K. Dick )
If you're talking about the screenplay, I wouldn't attribute that to Dick. His book is pretty drastically different than Scott's film.
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after I wrote that I remembered that Dick did not write the screenplay

I should have just said BR was much better, perhaps having good source material was a help,
the writing on Lost did take a huge dive, Lindelof deserves credit for the parts that work and the parts that do not.
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As much as I really liked Prometheus, it's hard for me to argue with that. Blade Runner is one of my absolute favorites.
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whoever did the reboot on the last Startrek did a pretty good job on that one.

I still like this movie and recommend it. I hope the writing on the next one is better.
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I rolled my eyes when Vickers got crushed by the rolling spaceship.

RUN TO THE SIDE, YOU DUMB-ASS!
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Just saw this the other night and I did like it, and would like a second viewing as well. The 3D was very good (in Imax) except when there was text on screen, it was double. But otherwise looked really nice.

Enjoyed the tie-ins to Alien the most. I saw Alien in a movie theater in 1979 where it scared the unsuspecting crap out of me, LOL, so it was fun to see this.

I did have one big problem with it though, and I don't think I've seen anyone mention it here. Why oh why have a younger actor in old age makeup play that part? I don't get it. I know he did viral ads as his younger self before the movie came out but seriously that can't be the only reason. As much as they try, aging makeup just hasn't been mastered yet enough to pull it off in a totally realistic way, and for a character who spends the entire movie OLD. I could see if half the movie was his younger self or something that necessitated it. And I've seen much better jobs than they did it here. So why?? I really enjoyed the movie but every single time he was on screen it just pulled me out of the moment. Every time he was on I couldn't help but thinking, "Now don't con me BIFF!"
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Yeah, I thought that, too.
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I did have one big problem with it though, and I don't think I've seen anyone mention it here. Why oh why have a younger actor in old age makeup play that part? I don't get it.
rich has railed about this on FB and in text conversations...
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