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Old 07-17-2011, 10:24 AM   #16
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Just watched The 39 Steps streaming last night--decades since I'd seen it. I think I could just do streaming, but my queue has a shitload of DVDs that aren't available streaming yet.

Martha, it's pretty easy to put a cable from you laptop into your TV so that you can watch it on the bigger screen (I'm assuming your TV is bigger than your laptop ).
We have a laptop dedicated to our entertainment center set-up, so iTunes and Netflix go out through our TV and stereo system.

I think what will kill DVD delivery for me is if the U.S.P.S. gets rid of Saturday delivery. That will f-up everyone's chances to get the most of their DVD service.
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Old 07-17-2011, 02:08 PM   #17
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We only have desktops.

And our TV is about 12 years old; it's the old-fashioned, box kind. oublereject:

But thanks. Eventually we'll catch up.
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We only have desktops.

And our TV is about 12 years old; it's the old-fashioned, box kind. oublereject:

But thanks. Eventually we'll catch up.


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I'd be willing to pay 15 bucks a month just for the streaming package if out meant that the streaming catalog improved. I love gay and lesbian foreign indie dramas was much as the next guy, but come on... let's up the selection there, netflix.
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We only have desktops.

And our TV is about 12 years old; it's the old-fashioned, box kind. oublereject:
Heh, wow...
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Just watched The 39 Steps streaming last night--decades since I'd seen it. I think I could just do streaming, but my queue has a shitload of DVDs that aren't available streaming yet.

Martha, it's pretty easy to put a cable from you laptop into your TV so that you can watch it on the bigger screen (I'm assuming your TV is bigger than your laptop ).
We have a laptop dedicated to our entertainment center set-up, so iTunes and Netflix go out through our TV and stereo system.

I think what will kill DVD delivery for me is if the U.S.P.S. gets rid of Saturday delivery. That will f-up everyone's chances to get the most of their DVD service.
I'm in your situation. I'm actually inclined to dump the streaming since there are so few titles. Maybe I can hurry up and finish season 4 of Friday Night Lights. . .after that there isn't much on my streaming que that I wouldn't be fine just getting on DVD. (The TV series are nice to have streaming because you don't have to wait between discs to see the next episode).
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My husband's gone for the night, so I was going to watch something streaming. The only things on our queue that are available for streaming are the old biker movies that he likes. I'd ditch the streaming if it weren't for those.

Friggin' Netflix.
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Heh, wow...
Yeah, and it's a really good Sony, and we only replace stuff when it breaks, so we may have this TV for another 12 years or so.
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Yeah, and it's a really good Sony, and we only replace stuff when it breaks, so we may have this TV for another 12 years or so.
Our family's Sony Trinitron 19" from 1970 lasted for more than 30 years.

(Actually it didn't break, just no one wanted it anymore)
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I messed up. I owe you an explanation.

It is clear from the feedback over the past two months that many members felt we lacked respect and humility in the way we announced the separation of DVD and streaming and the price changes. That was certainly not our intent, and I offer my sincere apology. Let me explain what we are doing.

For the past five years, my greatest fear at Netflix has been that we wouldn't make the leap from success in DVDs to success in streaming. Most companies that are great at something – like AOL dialup or Borders bookstores – do not become great at new things people want (streaming for us). So we moved quickly into streaming, but I should have personally given you a full explanation of why we are splitting the services and thereby increasing prices. It wouldn’t have changed the price increase, but it would have been the right thing to do.

So here is what we are doing and why.

Many members love our DVD service, as I do, because nearly every movie ever made is published on DVD. DVD is a great option for those who want the huge and comprehensive selection of movies.

I also love our streaming service because it is integrated into my TV, and I can watch anytime I want. The benefits of our streaming service are really quite different from the benefits of DVD by mail. We need to focus on rapid improvement as streaming technology and the market evolves, without maintaining compatibility with our DVD by mail service.

So we realized that streaming and DVD by mail are really becoming two different businesses, with very different cost structures, that need to be marketed differently, and we need to let each grow and operate independently.

It’s hard to write this after over 10 years of mailing DVDs with pride, but we think it is necessary: In a few weeks, we will rename our DVD by mail service to “Qwikster”. We chose the name Qwikster because it refers to quick delivery. We will keep the name “Netflix” for streaming.

Qwikster will be the same website and DVD service that everyone is used to. It is just a new name, and DVD members will go to qwikster.com to access their DVD queues and choose movies. One improvement we will make at launch is to add a video games upgrade option, similar to our upgrade option for Blu-ray, for those who want to rent Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Members have been asking for video games for many years, but now that DVD by mail has its own team, we are finally getting it done. Other improvements will follow. A negative of the renaming and separation is that the Qwikster.com and Netflix.com websites will not be integrated.

There are no pricing changes (we’re done with that!). If you subscribe to both services you will have two entries on your credit card statement, one for Qwikster and one for Netflix. The total will be the same as your current charges. We will let you know in a few weeks when the Qwikster.com website is up and ready.

For me the Netflix red envelope has always been a source of joy. The new envelope is still that lovely red, but now it will have a Qwikster logo. I know that logo will grow on me over time, but still, it is hard. I imagine it will be similar for many of you.

I want to acknowledge and thank you for sticking with us, and to apologize again to those members, both current and former, who felt we treated them thoughtlessly.

Both the Qwikster and Netflix teams will work hard to regain your trust. We know it will not be overnight. Actions speak louder than words. But words help people to understand actions.

Respectfully yours,

-Reed Hastings, Co-Founder and CEO, Netflix

p.s. I have a slightly longer explanation along with a video posted on our blog, where you can also post comments.
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This is so fucking stupid. I like having the option to choose between dvd and streaming in one place. Who hired this loser?

And Qwikster???? WTF?? Why not....wait fort it... Mailflix? Less lame, more true. If there were any way to cancel everything and get this stuff elsewhere I would.
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This is so fucking stupid. I like having the option to choose between dvd and streaming in one place. Who hired this loser?

And Qwikster???? WTF?? Why not....wait fort it... Mailflix? Less lame, more true. If there were any way to cancel everything and get this stuff elsewhere I would.
I'm just waiting for the USPS to get approval to cancel Saturday delivery, so waiting for DVDs in the mail will be even more annoying.


Hello start-up company! Someone (besides Blockbuster) should be able to blow ClusterFlix out of the water now.
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That was a dumb letter from the CEO. You might as well just spin off the infrastructure and get out entirely, rather than have this weird counter intuitive amalgamation and pretend it makes sense.

But it's kind of interesting, I think there may be a generational split about the utility of the streaming service. Between Friday Night Lights, Doctor Who, Breaking Bad, Louie, Twin Peaks, Damages, the Star Treks, Avatar, all the James Bond films piling up, a decent selection of older movies, and the ability to watch in HD through my PS3, I've never had any problem with streaming-only Netflix. Waiting on DVDs through the mail seems like such a drag, dude. bro.

I can envision some day in the future when I've gone through these series that the status quo level of selection becomes inadequate, but right now I can barely keep up.
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