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Old 06-26-2009, 02:20 AM   #631
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I also don't understand the RUMOUR that he left the Beatles rights to Paul somehow wipes away what he did with them in the past.

HE. SOLD. THE. RIGHTS. TO. REVOLUTION. TO. NIKE.

Anyone old enough to remember when that commercial came out should remember the HUGE controversy when it did, and how many musicians were upset that this landmark song was being used to sell shoes.

"Songs like Revolution don't mean a pair of sneakers, they mean Revolution."
- Paul McCartney

Even MACCA was pissed.
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Heath Ledger wasn't accused of molesting children, didn't have a disturbing fixation with them, or chop his face up with plastic surgery.

He also died when he was just staring to do some of his best work.

See the difference?
Right. But one of the first people on the scene was an Olson twin.

Regardless, you got me, Michael definitely wins the weirdo war by far, you win.

So I guess that makes it more a matter of showing respect to people who do care. Some people aren't capable of giving that respect, but I'm sure they'd be the first ones to cry foul if they weren't afforded the same respect when someone they admired died.
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Old 06-26-2009, 02:23 AM   #633
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YouTube - (Michael Jackson) Billie Jean - Sungha Jung

One of the greatest melodies ever, beautiful arrangement, prodigy kid. A+ all around.
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So I guess that makes it more a matter of showing respect to people who do care. Some people aren't capable of giving that respect, but I'm sure they'd be the first ones to cry foul if they weren't afforded the same respect when someone they admired died.
I agree somewhat, but I do think that some of these people would understand the divisive nature of their celebrity, you know?

The admirable qualities of this guy's career should be remembered as well as the bad. Otherwise, it's just some revisionist view of history.
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So I guess that makes it more a matter of showing respect to people who do care. Some people aren't capable of giving that respect, but I'm sure they'd be the first ones to cry foul if they weren't afforded the same respect when someone they admired died.
Well, some of us wouldn't be so hypocritical to admire someone so screwed up and then be upset if others didn't feel the same way.
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I agree somewhat, but I do think that some of these people would understand the divisive nature of their celebrity, you know?

The admirable qualities of this guy's career should be remembered as well as the bad. Otherwise, it's just some revisionist view of history.
Oh, I agree. But is it really appropriate just minutes or hours after, when people are still kind of stunned, shaking their heads, letting it all sink in, and expressing their genuine thoughts and sadness online? There'll be plenty of time to deconstruct his life in the days to come.

Whatever. A couple of posts from me isn't going to instill general politeness into people. Have at it, if that's what makes you happy, I guess.

(not you, LMP, I was speaking in general.)
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As I said before, I wonder if people would be this sensitive if O.J. just died, or would all bets be off? I'm curious if everyone is deserving of the same amount of respect and sympathy.
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Whatever. A couple of posts from me isn't going to instill general politeness into people. Have at it, if that's what makes you happy, I guess.
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That's the risk people take when they spill their hearts out online. If you want a safe venue to sort out your emotions, you're better off meeting up with some friends and family... you know, in the real world.
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This thread is a perfect example of what happens whenever a 'controversial' celebrity passes. If a big well known celebrity that had no flaws or faults passed, all the responses would be and RIP, etc. While I think its a shame that some people feel the need to act so childish and callous, I know I cant change how people feel and there are bound to be some extreme debates and arguments. It's really just unfortunate that some people cannot have enough decency to just not say anything at all if they don't have anything nice to say. It's bad enough to be carrying on in this thread, but then to post even ruder things in other threads all over the forum. I've already tried to say more than once that this thread should be to discuss the events and pay your respects. If you have rude remarks or comments, or want to crack jokes, there are other threads to do that in. The guy was no saint by far, but as much of a pop legend as he was, I feel he deserves at least one thread where people can mourn and pay their respects.
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Oh, I agree. But is it really appropriate just minutes or hours after, when people are still kind of stunned, shaking their heads, letting it all sink in, and expressing their genuine thoughts and sadness online? There'll be plenty of time to deconstruct his life in the days to come.

Whatever. A couple of posts from me isn't going to instill general politeness into people. Have at it, if that's what makes you happy, I guess.

(not you, LMP, I was speaking in general.)
I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm still trying to grasp the whole attachment most people have to celebrities and this obsession with celebrity culture. It's amazing how his death overshadowed Farrah Fawcett's death (and to a lesser extent, Ed McMahon's), when in the end they're just two people who very few people actually know.

It's strange. I'm not condemning anyone for being emotional that someone has died, but why them, you know?

I'd like to hear some thoughts on this. I'm sure someone can express it better than I have.
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Well said Sicy. Thanks
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Maybe, for some reason, and to his fans, his contribution to music and pop culture more than compensates for his other failings (hanging his kid over the railing etc.)?

There's also a difference between someone molesting children, and being accused but found not guilty of molesting children.

And some might argue that his obsession with wrecking his body with all that surgical treatment was a means of self-expression, creating his own unique physical identity. As fucked up as his face ended up looking, he still looked more normal than those people who have tattoos all over their body and on their face, in my opinion anyway. Most tattoos are sheer heinous.
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This thread is a perfect example of what happens whenever a 'controversial' celebrity passes. If a big well known celebrity that had no flaws or faults passed, all the responses would be and RIP, etc. While I think its a shame that some people feel the need to act so childish and callous, I know I cant change how people feel and there are bound to be some extreme debates and arguments. It's really just unfortunate that some people cannot have enough decency to just not say anything at all if they don't have anything nice to say. It's bad enough to be carrying on in this thread, but then to post even ruder things in other threads all over the forum. I've already tried to say more than once that this thread should be to discuss the events and pay your respects. If you have rude remarks or comments, or want to crack jokes, there are other threads to do that in. The guy was no saint by far, but as much of a pop legend as he was, I feel he deserves at least one thread where people can mourn and pay their respects.

This is why I'm staying silent.
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This thread is a perfect example of what happens whenever a 'controversial' celebrity passes. If a big well known celebrity that had no flaws or faults passed, all the responses would be and RIP, etc. .
Sicy, the majority of what you said seems all well and good, but who else are you including in that "controversial" category? There's a difference between someone who was difficult to live with or treated their family like shit, and what MJ has in his bio.
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