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Old 06-25-2009, 07:38 PM   #346
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Man, Al Sharpton can say all of the right things and still sound like a douchebag. CNN has all the best coverage today.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:39 PM   #347
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He may have been a criminal. But no one can deny that he was a smooth criminal.

I'm about to head to a friend's apartment to watch the draft and we've already decided that we'll be bumping nothin but MJ on the speakers all night. Peace out.

20th century go to sleep.
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I haven't read through this whole thread and I'm on my phone right now. But I just wanted to say that this is a person why was certainly abused as a child, and deserves a little sympathy. But he spent most of his adulthood building a private fantasyland for himself, as well as spending god knows how much altering his face, body, and skin color, for which there is no excuse, and which personally I find insulting to his black heritage.

The guy could have spent his time and money trying to make the world a better place (imagine what he could have accomplished in Africa, for example). Instead he just retreated further and further into his own delusions. That anyone would worship this guy, or think of him as a role model disturbs me. He represents everything wrong with child stars, frivolous spending, bad parenting, arrested development, etc. And that doesnt include the TWO incidents of being accused of child molestation. Yes, he was acquitted, but they found books of nude children, he admitted to having slumber parties with kids, and supposedly witnesses were threatened and bullied...plus he settled out of court for an exorbitant amount. So I don't think the guy is innocent.

A handful of catchy songs doesn't stack up too well against all the bad stuff. A John Lennon-level tragedy this ain't, and not much of a loss to the music world either. He's been irrelevant for over 15 years.
At one point, he made the Guinness Book of World Records for most charities supported by a pop star. While he was on tour he visited sick children in hospitals. I'll have to look up a resource, but I thought he even had specific days at Neverland for terminally ill children or something. Then there was that We Are the World thing. He did spend his time and money to try and make the world a better place, he wasn't completely out of it.
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The more I am remembering and hearing about him, the more this is saddening me. He and his music was a bigger part of my childhood than I remembered, until this happened and I had occasion to truly think about it.

I hope he is remembered more as Michael Jackson than as Wacko Jacko.
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The more I am remembering and hearing about him, the more this is saddening me. He and his music was a bigger part of my childhood than I remembered, until this happened and I had occasion to truly think about it.

I hope he is remembered more as Michael Jackson than as Wacko Jacko.
I can't agree more. I'm not making excuses for certain things, but I happen to have first hand experience with a certain aspect of his childhood that is so ridiculously damaging to one's psyche that I see those things as more tragic than anything.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:43 PM   #352
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That combined with the performance clips (especially the Jackson 5 ones) they're showing on CNN are really making this all sink in. I cannot believe that Michael Jackson is dead. I'm heartbroken right now. I just need to go for a long drive, plug my iPod into my car dock, and listen to him for the rest of the night.
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Baby was a whore
Baby got big
And baby get bigger
Baby get something
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Baby, baby, baby
Was a rock-and-roll nigger
Oh, look around you,
All around you,
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Do you like
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You know she got big
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Baby got a hand;
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I was lost
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I was lost,
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Jesus Christ and Grandma, too
Jackson Pollock was a nigger
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MTV has got a video on now.
I can remember writing Michael Jackson a fan letter around the time of Off The Wall
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good God, haters to the left, for real.

we all had our michael jackson hate days during his trial, this thread is for something else.
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Even these guys are being nice
they usually ripped into him

they have edited most of the bad stuff off
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The more I am remembering and hearing about him, the more this is saddening me. He and his music was a bigger part of my childhood than I remembered, until this happened and I had occasion to truly think about it.

I hope he is remembered more as Michael Jackson than as Wacko Jacko.
This is true -- I just showed my 12 year-old daughter the coverage on every news station, and was trying to explain what he meant to pop culture and entertainment -- and to people around the world. It's huge -- I remember being obsessed w his videos around the Billie Jean/Thriller stage. He was an incredible talent and will be missed, regardless of all the other weirdness/issues.
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im a grown man crying. loved all his songs and still do.
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A handful of catchy songs doesn't stack up too well against all the bad stuff. A John Lennon-level tragedy this ain't, and not much of a loss to the music world either. He's been irrelevant for over 15 years.
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