beegee
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Lost—Season 5
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U2DMfan
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I'm sorry, I just don't get the Christain Shepherd thing? anyone care to throw some theories my way? I mean, he died in australia right? was his body on the crashed plane and now is back to life again? I just wonder how it is he supposedly knows so much about the island...he had never been there , right?
The first time we see Christian Shephard, he's old enough to have a mid-late 30's/early 40's- year old son. And he has had no flashbacks, so I don't know why anyone would assume he hadn't ever been there.
He's the only other person who's appeared in the cabin but Claire.
Both are Shephards, don't fall out of your chair if Jacob is a Shephard as well.
And he's dead and walking around, and touching babies, so I would think that implies he's in tune with the Island's spirituality or resurrected of some sort.
Anyways, one of the themes/theories I've been most interested in with regard to him is that the reason 815 was brought there, was because of him.
Once you've been to the Island, you can't leave or you have to go back.
There are theories about how this plays into quantum entanglement, if the Island is indeed in some kind of wormhole/blackhole situation. I am not a physicist but the resident physics hounds on some of the Lost boards I frequent have ideas of that kind. It's pretty cool stuff.
There is also the causality/paradox situation, if you have done something in the past (if there is a loop involved) then you have to go back and make sure you do it again. When Locke said "you aren't supposed to do this" to Jack at the end of season 3, that implied that it had happened before, to me.
The reason the future was possibly changed was because Desmond turned the Failsafe key, which after a string of events, allowed Charlie to disable the Looking Glass station, which allowed the Oceanic Six to leave, which was something that hadn't ever happened. I could go on all day, I'll stop there.
beegee
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It should also be mentioned that Christian Shephard "released" Michael during his brief appearance on the freighter. This is obviously a major point in the mystery of who or what he is.
Daddysgonnapay, maybe you would gain some insight on the character by reading the article on him at Lostpedia.
Christian Shephard - Lostpedia
The information under "Name Symbolism" is especially interesting.
Daddysgonnapay, maybe you would gain some insight on the character by reading the article on him at Lostpedia.
Christian Shephard - Lostpedia
The information under "Name Symbolism" is especially interesting.
Daddysgonnapay
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Thanks.... i will check it out. I have watched the show from the beginning, but I do not think of things as deeply as others do here...so it is always helpful to see how everyone else thinks is happening on the show.
phanan
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I liked tonight's episode. Probably my favorite of the season so far.
Lancemc
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Tonight's episode was easily the worst since Expose. The first half was nothing but bland exposition. Not just that, but bland exposition that makes no god damn sense at all. Terrible.
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BoMac
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I loved tonight's episode. Lots of biblical references in this one, including Ben's talk with Jack about Thomas the Disciple.
Also, Ajira Flight 316, and the return of John Locke and the rest of the 06, was, in my opinion, a direct reference to the Bible passage John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 316
Also, Ajira Flight 316, and the return of John Locke and the rest of the 06, was, in my opinion, a direct reference to the Bible passage John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 316
Thora
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I thought it was a fantastic episode! I didn't realize they'd be getting back to the island so quickly.
I wonder what happened to Aaron, and what the significance is of those two new people in the same cabin with the rest of the Oceanic 6. I thought it was a different Lapidus at first, as I didn't recognize him without the beard.
I wonder what happened to Aaron, and what the significance is of those two new people in the same cabin with the rest of the Oceanic 6. I thought it was a different Lapidus at first, as I didn't recognize him without the beard.
lazarus
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Some good moments, but Lance is right in that this was a lot of clumsy exposition. I would have expected better considering it was written by the two show-runners.
Best moment: "We're not going to Guam, are we?"
Next week looks like it's going to be one of the great ones, though.
Best moment: "We're not going to Guam, are we?"
Next week looks like it's going to be one of the great ones, though.
joyfulgirl
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What kind of idiot would wear a suit and tie back to the island. And WHY??
Please don't tell me everything happens for a reason on the island, including Jack's suit. Although someone will probably get strangled with the tie.
Please don't tell me everything happens for a reason on the island, including Jack's suit. Although someone will probably get strangled with the tie.
Hewson
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So did Ben kill Penny?
Tiger Edge
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I loved that too
Daddysgonnapay
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OMG! I was thinking the same thing! he does REMEMBER the island, right? and the whole Kate / Jack thing...where is Aaron? and her big kiss...only to be cold to him the next day...what is up with that?
Tiger Edge
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It's likely because they were trying to recreate as many of the details of the first crash as possible. That's why Hurley was carrying a guitar (in Charlie's place) and Sayid was in handcuffs (in Kate's place). Neither of them were mistakes. Even the pre-flight actions were similar to the first flight with Jack battling customs to bring a body on board and Hurley's movements were very reminiscent of the first flight too.
beegee
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Exactly.
I agree with laz on the Guam comment but also as good was Ben's reply of "who cares?" when he was asked about the other people on the flight.
WildHoneyAlways
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i didn't notice Sayid was in handcuffs. 
Do we know what happened to Ben? I blinked and seemed to have missed that part.
Do we know what happened to Ben? I blinked and seemed to have missed that part.
beegee
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They didn't show us what happened to Ben.
joyfulgirl
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Okay. I didn't see Season 1 so I didn't know.
Tiger Edge
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Oh, you must! The pilot is the best pilot in the history of pilots! I watched Season 1 on burned DVDs my friend made for me. I got as far as episode 4 before a hurricane hit and I didn't have power for two weeks. It was absolute torture.
beegee
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The scene last night where Jack wakes up in the jungle was almost exactly the same as the opening scene in the pilot episode from season one - only instead of having a piece of suicide note in his hand he finds a little bottle of vodka from the flight in his pocket and instead of running towards the screaming Hurley he runs toward the screaming passengers of flight 815.
It was all very well done as far as mirroring goes (one of my favorite things about the show) and actually had me a little confused for the first few seconds.
phanan
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Same here. For a moment, I thought we were actually back at the beginning.
GirlsAloudFan
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Yeah the open of last night's episode was a good little mindfuck. I love when they do stuff like that. But the rest of the episode didn't do all that much for me.
Where the hell was Aaron? How did Hurley get out of jail? And why was Sayid being escorted in handcuffs at the airport? I had to have missed something last week.
Where the hell was Aaron? How did Hurley get out of jail? And why was Sayid being escorted in handcuffs at the airport? I had to have missed something last week.
joyfulgirl
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It's possible I missed Season 2 as well. I can't remember when I started watching. I haven't been very committed.
What would I do without you guys.
Tiger Edge
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None of that has been explained yet. Jack didn't know that Hurley or Sayid were going to come on the plane until he actually saw them there.
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BoMac
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If you recall an episode or two back, Ben's lawyer told him in that parking lot that they could spring Hurley out of the jail the day after due to a lack of evidence or something.
Also, if you recall at the end of the previous episode, Sayid said that if he sees any of them again, "it would be unpleasant for all concerned."
Ben told Jack at the church that he had to go see a friend to "tie up loose eneds." I'm thinking that Ben went to see Sayid, and got beat up as a result. However, this was part of Ben's plan to get Sayid arrested and deported and thus on Ajira Flight 316.
Although it's entirely possible he confronted Desmond and Penny. Whatever the case, I'm sure Ben was behind getting Sayid arested and deported.
GirlsAloudFan
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Ahhh, yeah, it would be sweet if Ben's cut up and bloody face was due to a beat down at the hands of one Sayid Jarrah.
phanan
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It did appear that he was calling from a marina or something.
Tiger Edge
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That's true, but it doesn't explain why he would get on the plane willingly after that.
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BoMac
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He had a guitar case with him, probably as a stand-in for Charlie. Maybe Charlie "visited" him again and told him to get on the plane.
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Did they ever show Sun the "proof" ??? Or did I miss that ?
And seriously, no mother would leave her child for her husband, right ladies ?
And seriously, no mother would leave her child for her husband, right ladies ?
