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Old 02-22-2009, 05:39 AM   #421
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Lol, Guam!

I'm going to Guam in a few weeks. It's only a thirty minute flight from where I live. How often does Guam (or anywhere out here in the Pacific) get any TV time! Maybe on my next flight to back to the states via Guam I'll be sucked into the island's vortex! :hmmm: If I manage to escape the island, I'll fill you all in on what I learn!

Serioulsy though, I've been forced to watch Lost on youtube because CBS doesn't recognize Saipan as part of the U.S. (though they do recognize Guam). This week they swept it pretty clean because there was only one user who had the episode up and he missed part of the episode. I don't know what happened between the time Jack was talking to his grandfather and had just found his Dad's shoes and Hurley at the counter.

How much did I miss? And what happened? Did I miss anything important? What's this about Ben calling from a dock and Penny being killed?
Some are wondering if Ben went to carry out his promise to Widmore to kill Penny, as Widmore did Ben's daughter. When the group were at Hawking's Church getting all learned, Jack walked out to the pews a little while later to see Ben sitting there pretending to pray or something, and ben says something like he is going to see an old friend for something/take care of business (cannot remember the quote, but it's along these lines - which at the time made me think of Hannibal Lector "Having an old friend for lunch" lol). Later, Ben calls Jack and he is at a pay phone on the water, at a marina or something (his mobile suddenly isn't working?), and is bleeding from wounds on his face, and he is genuinely in a flap. Seems he has taken care of that business? The only link to water we've all seen, beyond the island itself, is Penny's boat. If Ben knows he is heading back on a plane to Guam and the island, this was his only chance to sort Penny out, no?

And as for Guam, what the heck kind of business does Sayid have being extradited to Guam?

And with the time skips, are Sawyer and everyone as well as Jin, now back in Dharma/Kombie days, you think?
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:58 AM   #422
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Some are wondering if Ben went to carry out his promise to Widmore to kill Penny, as Widmore did Ben's daughter. When the group were at Hawking's Church getting all learned, Jack walked out to the pews a little while later to see Ben sitting there pretending to pray or something, and ben says something like he is going to see an old friend for something/take care of business (cannot remember the quote, but it's along these lines - which at the time made me think of Hannibal Lector "Having an old friend for lunch" lol). Later, Ben calls Jack and he is at a pay phone on the water, at a marina or something (his mobile suddenly isn't working?), and is bleeding from wounds on his face, and he is genuinely in a flap. Seems he has taken care of that business? The only link to water we've all seen, beyond the island itself, is Penny's boat. If Ben knows he is heading back on a plane to Guam and the island, this was his only chance to sort Penny out, no?

And as for Guam, what the heck kind of business does Sayid have being extradited to Guam?

And with the time skips, are Sawyer and everyone as well as Jin, now back in Dharma/Kombie days, you think?
Thanks for filling in the details, Angela. As for Guam, I don't know why Sayid would need to go there. One of our legislators wanted the U.S. to move "Gitmo" to Saipan, so maybe they were going to fly him over here.
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One thing about the marina makes no sense though. Widmore tells Des in London where to find Ms. Hawking in LA. There's no way Penny and Des sail from London to LA in 3 days...he had to fly.
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Ben sitting there pretending to pray or something, and ben says something like he is going to see an old friend for something/take care of business (cannot remember the quote, ?
He said he had to keep a promise to an old friend.
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And with the time skips, are Sawyer and everyone as well as Jin, now back in Dharma/Kombie days, you think?
They've gotta be somewhere around there, no? If (and only if...and a big if, too) we are to assume that the time flashes stopped when Locke fixed the FDW and they are not set to resume, they're at least somewhere in the past. If not, then how are Jack and Kate going to wind up as the cave's Adam and Eve, in...what was it? 2005? 2006?
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They've gotta be somewhere around there, no? If (and only if...and a big if, too) we are to assume that the time flashes stopped when Locke fixed the FDW and they are not set to resume, they're at least somewhere in the past. If not, then how are Jack and Kate going to wind up as the cave's Adam and Eve, in...what was it? 2005? 2006?
Jack and Kate as Adam and Eve is one theory. But another one is that Adam and Eve are two characters we haven't seen in quite a while—Rose and Bernard.

Remember, they all flashed back to 1954, and perhaps something happened to them during this time. Maybe they escaped to the cave. When Adam and Eve were first discovered in 2004, Jack said they must have been dead at least 50 years, so the timeline certainly fits.
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I had forgotten about the Rose/Bernie theory. That would make sense, especially if Jack = Jacob, which seems reasonable, at this point. Ridiculous shit. Also, this was posted on ILX, along time ago. Somebody recently made reference to it, and I'd forgotten its briliance. So great:

Haha Daniel and Jin alone in the sea together would be hilarious, they just wouldn't be able to communicate with one another. Jin would look at Daniel earnestly and say in his best English "do you want fish?" and Dan would be staring right past him and going "well... fish is kind of an elastic concept at this point..."
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Oh, and allow me to note that not a single person on the plane seemed to recognize the fact that the mo'fucker was filled with global celebrities. People be recognizing Jack all up and down Sunset, but once he's in an airport or on a plane, he just blends in? On a plane??? And Hurley was just in a high-speed, OJ-style pursuit...which was televised! Damn it. God damn it.
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If any of you will just think back to last season when they finally got OFF the island


If I told you that a season later they will all decide to get on plane to Guam
and somehow (unknown to us) they will just wake up back on the island

all of you would have told me that would be the laziest, crappiest writing (un)imaginable
and the show would never sink to that low of a level.
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If any of you will just think back to last season when they finally got OFF the island


If I told you that a season later they will all decide to get on plane to Guam
and somehow (unknown to us) they will just wake up back on the island

all of you would have told me that would be the laziest, crappiest writing (un)imaginable
and the show would never sink to that low of a level.
I would have, yes. And my mind hasn't changed. Dreadful episode.

...Although we did already know that they were going back. I still think that that, in itself, is beyond ridiculous, but whatever. It wouldn't've been a curve ball, or something.
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Wow, you specifically said Guam?
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Jesus, if the show sucks, pull a Lance and stop fucking watching. Who the keeps watching a show they think sucks, just to complain about it on a message board? Move on.
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Oh, wait.

He said, "IF I told you..."



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Jesus, if the show sucks, pull a Lance and stop fucking watching. Who the keeps watching a show they think sucks, just to complain about it on a message board? Move on.
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