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Old 01-22-2009, 12:57 PM   #181
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Who was the old woman helping Ben at the end of episode 2?
Ms. Hawking - Lostpedia

God, how I love Lostpedia! I've been reading stuff all morning...
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Old 01-22-2009, 12:59 PM   #182
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Personally, I think the show has been fundamentally flawed since this new design was initiated, since now (judging by the reactions in this thread alone even) it's pretty much a feeding machine for all the mythology-whores out there.
Nothing has changed. This show has generated discussions and theories since day one. And now that more pieces of the puzzle are being revealed, of course the viewers or "mythology-whores" as you call them (even the ones in this thread) are going to be excited.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:00 PM   #183
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Another quick question: WTF?
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:21 PM   #184
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After watching part of the episode again this morning I would have to agree that Ms. Hawking is probably Faraday's mother - I had forgotten that Faraday told Desmond to find his mother and it makes perfect sense that it would be her.
I'm not so sure. This is Lost, and sometimes the most obvious connections turn out to be untrue. I think the writers want us to think that Mrs. Hawking is Faraday's mother.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:27 PM   #185
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Hey guys, "WHEN am I?"
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:38 PM   #186
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I just rewatched "Flashes Before Your Eyes" last night, or at least all the Ms. Hawking parts, and it's interesting how much of the "you can't change the past" stuff was in there.

She clearly knows a lot about the subject, and now we know she's some kind of scientist as well. Which is why I think it's near impossible that she's not the person who Desmond was told to see by Faraday--his mother.

It's also been said before by Lindelof that she's some kind of time traveler or "time-police".
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:41 PM   #187
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Something that occurred to me when I was watching it, and just came back to me now was Kate and Sun's conversation. When Sun was recounting events on the freighter, she said to Kate "I don't blame you." I don't know if it was a subtle change in her tone or body language, but I got a distinct deceptive vibe. If she really does blame Kate, does that make Kate the second person along with Ben that she holds responsible for Jin's death? If this is the case, does that prove she's working with Widmore, or is she acting solely for her own reasons? Last season, I was convinced that she wasn't being sincere with Widmore, that she was setting him up. Now I don't know.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:48 PM   #188
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You were/are/will be drunk.
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That's true. GAF's alcoholism and pedophilia are my constant.
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If they actually sold that Dharma Initiative beer, it would be the only booze I'd buy.
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:05 PM   #191
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Nothing has changed. This show has generated discussions and theories since day one. And now that more pieces of the puzzle are being revealed, of course the viewers or "mythology-whores" as you call them (even the ones in this thread) are going to be excited.
Slow down for a sec. The show has most definitely changed. Of course there have been theories and myth-building since day one. That was never the primary agenda of the show though. What made the show great from the beginning was the emphasis on building characters and their relationships. Of course they would do that by placing them in situations within the main storyline that subsequently built up the mythology, but the show always made sure they told engaging, insightful character pieces within each episode, and in the best cases, the characters' personal journeys would reflect (and in turn elaborate on) the wider narrative arc. Of course the pace was slower under this design (which drove the mythology-whores nuts, especially in season 3) but I personally feel the show was better for it.

Now it seems to have moved the emphasis towards concluding the wider narrative arc and finishing the myth-building, characters secondary. I mean since the end of season 3, outside of a handful of cases, have we really learned or felt anything significant new about any of these people we've spent 4 years watching? Not really. As a result, the episodes for the most part have also moved to a more haphazard design that cuts between a far greater number of groups and individual plot threads at the same time. Apparently we need to know everything that's happening in this show all at the same time. I know a lot of people have no problem with this, and that's fine. For my time though, I think it's a lousy way to do things.
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Well isn't the point of that interview that we already know all we need to about these people, and that's why the show was treading water? I think that you're wrong saying that none of them have developed since that point. Not all of them have, but some.

Now I do agree with you that the show should focus on a handful of characters in each episode instead of trying to feature everyone, but to be fair, this was the season premiere. I've heard rumors of the next episode only featuring one of the "groups", so it may be more to our liking.
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Something I found curious last night--Richard Alpert told Locke that when he saw him the next time, he wouldn't know him, and to show him the compass. Well what happened to that episode when Alpert visited him in various stages of Locke's life to see if he was "ready"?

Doesn't really add up.
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I will see it tonight.
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Hope they drop the time travel pretty quickly. It already feels old.
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